Grace chats with Kelsey Skaggs, lawyer and Executive Director of the Climate Defense
Project, about suing Harvard for its failure to divest from fossil fuels while still a law
student and the growing momentum around the climate necessity defense. They talk
about the decades-long campaign by members of the fossil fuel industry and their allies to
undermine climate science and disempower the public, and how regular people have
found the courage to risk their bodies and their freedom in nonviolent civil disobedience
against government and industry policies that worsen the climate crisis.
