After Charlie Kirk’s assassination, conspiracy theories and divisions multiplied on the right. On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross talks to Andrew Kolvet, a Turning Point USA spokesperson and executive producer of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” about what happens to a movement when its charismatic leader is gone, what it’s like to be the target of conspiracy theories, and whether there are any issues unifying conservatism now.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

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Is Anything Holding MAGA Together?

DEC 11, 202569 MIN
Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Is Anything Holding MAGA Together?

DEC 11, 202569 MIN

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After Charlie Kirk’s assassination, conspiracy theories and divisions multiplied on the right. On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross talks to Andrew Kolvet, a Turning Point USA spokesperson and executive producer of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” about what happens to a movement when its charismatic leader is gone, what it’s like to be the target of conspiracy theories, and whether there are any issues unifying conservatism now.

  • 01:32 - Andrew’s friendship with Charlie Kirk
  • 05:18 - Turning Point U.S.A.’s activism and impact
  • 11:16 - Charlie Kirk’s assassination and its aftermath
  • 18:42 - The divisions on the right start with conspiracy theories 
  • 38:28 - “Can the right hold together on Israel?”
  • 41:19 - Stress-testing the cohesion on the right
  • 56:08 - The Erika Kirk/Trump contrast

(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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