<description>&lt;p&gt;The girls are back in their cozy era &amp;mdash; and they pull up to New York for a long-awaited sit-down with the Podfather himself: &lt;strong&gt;Joe Budden&lt;/strong&gt;. After years of friendship, jokes, and cross-appearances, Joe finally joins Lex and Drea on the Pour Minds couch for a raw, hilarious, and surprisingly heartfelt episode.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;They dive into &lt;em&gt;everything&lt;/em&gt;: the evolution of podcasting, why &amp;ldquo;gender war&amp;rdquo; content is tired, how Black love is making a comeback online, and what it really takes to build a multimillion-dollar media empire without selling your soul. Joe opens up about contracts, creativity, his relationship, the Podwives, and why he always trusted the Poor Minds rise from day one.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The trio gets into cheating economics, pander-men, classism, industry politics, and of course&amp;hellip; Lex gets her messy questions off &amp;mdash; respectfully.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;This is Pour Minds x Joe Budden &amp;mdash; an episode years in the making.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;See &lt;a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener"&gt;omnystudio.com/listener&lt;/a&gt; for privacy information.&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Pour Minds Podcast

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Bird Behavior ft. Joe Budden

DEC 12, 2025115 MIN
Pour Minds Podcast

Bird Behavior ft. Joe Budden

DEC 12, 2025115 MIN

Description

The girls are back in their cozy era — and they pull up to New York for a long-awaited sit-down with the Podfather himself: Joe Budden. After years of friendship, jokes, and cross-appearances, Joe finally joins Lex and Drea on the Pour Minds couch for a raw, hilarious, and surprisingly heartfelt episode.

They dive into everything: the evolution of podcasting, why “gender war” content is tired, how Black love is making a comeback online, and what it really takes to build a multimillion-dollar media empire without selling your soul. Joe opens up about contracts, creativity, his relationship, the Podwives, and why he always trusted the Poor Minds rise from day one.

The trio gets into cheating economics, pander-men, classism, industry politics, and of course… Lex gets her messy questions off — respectfully.

This is Pour Minds x Joe Budden — an episode years in the making.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.