Send a textIn this episode of Spartan Leadership, Josh sits down with Stephen Scoggins to unpack what actually causes burnout, why success without integration costs leaders their families and peace, and how to become the kind of leader who can scale without losing meaning.Stephen shares his journey from homelessness to building and exiting a multi-decade company, why most exits lead to depression, and the framework he uses to help leaders move from emotional reactivity to grounded presence.This conversation goes deep into:– Why your external business reflects your internal world– The five hidden constraints that sabotage leaders– The difference between being “successful” and being whole– What it really means to lead as one part lion, one part lamb– Why presence matters more than performance– How faith, identity, and leadership intersectIf you’re a founder, executive, high performer, or leader who feels like something is still missing — this episode will put language to what you’ve been feeling.👉 Free leadership assessment from Stephen:https://stephenscoggins.com/leaderChapters / Timestamps00:00 – Why burnout isn’t about workload02:10 – Stephen’s story: from homelessness to leadership04:45 – You can’t scale dysfunction07:12 – Leadership is a lifelong maturation process10:38 – The five constraints that sabotage leaders13:01 – Why impatience isn’t the problem — presence is17:19 – The “warrior in the garden” framework20:00 – One part lion, one part lamb23:17 – Loving the parts of yourself you resist25:16 – The daily mantra that rewires identity29:06 – Why most leaders seek validation in the wrong places31:17 – The real cost of fragmented leadership32:54 – Why success without meaning leads to depression35:30 – What children actually want from their parents39:15 – Why exits are emotionally dangerous41:20 – How to prepare for life after selling a business45:40 – An unpopular truth about victimhood and identity47:23 – Stephen’s leadership assessment and next stepsSupport the showCONNECT WITH ME HERE:FacebookInstagramLinkedInTwitterTikTokYouTube SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST HERE:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYouTube