The science of persuasion has nothing to do with logic. Most people try to "win" with better arguments — and Joshua Bandoch, author of How to Get What You Want, says that's exactly why they fail.



In this episode, he shares a three-step framework for moving people to action. He breaks down how to find the real barrier blocking any "yes," craft a story that persuades your audience, and the surprisingly simple test that tells you if your message will actually land.



The result: conversations that end in agreement, not arguments.



⏰Timestamps



(00:00) Introduction

(00:47) What Persuasion Is

(01:58) The Persuader's Mindset

(04:48) Find Your North Star

(05:45) Feelings Over Facts

(07:35) Stories That Win

(10:14) Build the Story Arc

(15:21) Find the Barrier

(17:26) Frame It as a Loss

(18:38) Persuasion or Manipulation?

(19:29) Go Beyond Words

(21:24) The Granny Test

(24:26) Right or Make a Difference



Connect with Joshua Bandoch:

https://joshuabandoch.com/


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Host: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-aust/

Guest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-bandoch-02211b167/


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• 21 Storytelling Frameworks: https://eo-ipso-comms.kit.com/21-storytelling-frameworks-with-oliver

• Become a Presentation Genius (Free Course): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wJloFeNwBg

• Speak Like a CEO Academy: https://www.speaklikeaceo.academy/


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SPEAK LIKE A CEO

Oliver Aust

How Leaders Get What They Want Without Winning Arguments

MAY 27, 202625 MIN
SPEAK LIKE A CEO

How Leaders Get What They Want Without Winning Arguments

MAY 27, 202625 MIN

Description

The science of persuasion has nothing to do with logic. Most people try to "win" with better arguments — and Joshua Bandoch, author of How to Get What You Want, says that's exactly why they fail.In this episode, he shares a three-step framework for moving people to action. He breaks down how to find the real barrier blocking any "yes," craft a story that persuades your audience, and the surprisingly simple test that tells you if your message will actually land.The result: conversations that end in agreement, not arguments.⏰Timestamps(00:00) Introduction(00:47) What Persuasion Is(01:58) The Persuader's Mindset(04:48) Find Your North Star(05:45) Feelings Over Facts(07:35) Stories That Win(10:14) Build the Story Arc(15:21) Find the Barrier(17:26) Frame It as a Loss(18:38) Persuasion or Manipulation?(19:29) Go Beyond Words(21:24) The Granny Test(24:26) Right or Make a DifferenceConnect with Joshua Bandoch:https://joshuabandoch.com/🎧More Episodes Like This• 316: Surrounded by Idiots w/ Thomas Erikson https://open.spotify.com/episode/2YFSr9PbPZlFQJAUpebogU• 315: Nir Eyal NYT Best Sellerhttps://open.spotify.com/episode/2YFSr9PbPZlFQJAUpebogU• 308: Confidence on Commandhttps://open.spotify.com/episode/1tTFZKF5RA1gWDZvJzSpl9🔗LinkedInHost: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-aust/Guest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-bandoch-02211b167/📩NewsletterHost: https://eo-ipso-comms.kit.com/profile📚Resources• 21 Storytelling Frameworks: https://eo-ipso-comms.kit.com/21-storytelling-frameworks-with-oliver• Become a Presentation Genius (Free Course): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wJloFeNwBg• Speak Like a CEO Academy: https://www.speaklikeaceo.academy/📧 Email: [email protected]🙌 This episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com