<description>&lt;div&gt;Despite death threats and harassment, Republicans in Indiana delivered the biggest political setback to Trump since officials in Georgia wouldn’t help him find 11,780 votes in 2020. Turns out, some conservatives at the state level still have enough principles to not gerrymander on demand. Meanwhile, antisemitism, white nationalism, and neo-Nazism are flourishing among the very online right, including among people who used to be showcased by Fox. And they’re chewing on and mainstreaming some of the deepest, darkest conspiracies out there. But now those voices are more influential than the cable channel—even our vice president, ever mindful of 2028, won’t distance himself from the crowd. Plus, MTG’s come to Jesus moment, and the PR instead of reporting that is happening in the press room at the Pentagon&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Alyssa Farah Griffin&lt;/strong&gt; joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;show notes&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/thebulwark/p/tim-is-sick-of-tucker-carlson-playing?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&amp;amp;utm_medium=web"&gt;Tim's 'Bulwark Take' on Tucker and Candace&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/thebulwark/p/netflix-and-chill-outtrump-hasnt-decided-netflix-warner-paramount-ellison-truth-social-tariffs?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&amp;amp;utm_medium=web"&gt;Friday's "Morning Shots"&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;a href="https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/12/eric-geressy-goodreads-pentagon-dod-pete-hegseth-jack-posobiec-threat/"&gt;Mother Jones on Posobiec's PR moves at the Pentagon&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://abc.com/show/70207ea9-cb32-454b-a519-b40106227e32"&gt;ABC's "The View"&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch"&gt;Tim's playlist&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
</description>

Despite death threats and harassment, Republicans in Indiana delivered the biggest political setback to Trump since officials in Georgia wouldn’t help him find 11,780 votes in 2020. Turns out, some conservatives at the state level still have enough principles to not gerrymander on demand. 

Alyssa Farah: Trump's Big L in Indiana

<description>&lt;div&gt;Republican disunity is being obscured by affection for Trump, but just below the surface, MAGA is being pulled apart at the seams. At the same time, the administration is busy committing war crimes while conducting an illegal, nonsensical war, and the FBI is investing progressive groups for their views. The state of free speech protections may be worse than during the Red Scare. Meanwhile, SCOTUS keeps shaping the power of the presidency, Tucker and Candace’s conspiracies and Israel fear-mongering are way past an act, and the Andrew Tates of the manosphere are giving cover to men who just want to be a**holes.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;David French &lt;/strong&gt;joins Tim Miller.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;show notes&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/07/opinion/tennessee-trump-special-election.html?unlocked_article_code=1.708.NjLp.3NcfC_gfSPeH&amp;amp;smid=url-share"&gt;David's recent piece on MAGA &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/leak-fbi-list-of-extremists-is-coming?utm_campaign=post&amp;amp;utm_medium=web"&gt;Ken Klippenstein on the FBI investigating progressive groups &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/10/us/andrew-tate-barron-trump-romania.html"&gt;NYT on the Trump administration helping out Andrew Tate &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/advisory-opinions/id1490993194"&gt;David's podcast, "Advisory Opinions" &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/everyone-who-is-gone-is-here-the-united-states-central-america-and-the-making-of-a-crisis-jonathan-blitzer/d7d4a22ec001c9ff"&gt;"Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here," book referenced by Tim&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
</description>

Republican disunity is being obscured by affection for Trump, but just below the surface, MAGA is being pulled apart at the seams. At the same time, the administration is busy committing war crimes while conducting an illegal, nonsensical war, and the FBI is investing progressive groups for their views. The state of free speech protections may be worse than during the Red Scare.

David French: MAGA Is Bleeding Numbers

<description>&lt;div&gt;Big Boss Trump, who claims the power to run the whole government via executive order and pushes all our allies around, is a man suddenly with no agency when it comes to the economy. He says the high cost of living is a Democratic hoax, or in true Christmas spirit, he’s back to blaming parents for spoiling their daughters with too many dolls. And while his approval rating slips into the the 30s, voters keep rewarding Democrats at the ballot box. On the healthcare front, Republicans have been promising an alternative to Obamacare for 15 years with nothing to show for it. Plus, the corruption of Trump &amp;amp; Co is so pervasive, it’s hard for voters to get their minds around it, and Dems have to go all-in on recapturing the Senate next year—which means winning independents and non-MAGA republicans in red states.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Neera Tanden, &lt;/strong&gt;at the Center for American Progress,&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;joins Tim Miller.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;show notes&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.americanprogress.org/feature/trumps-take/"&gt;The "Trump's Take" tracker at the Center for American Progress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-rallys-creep-factor-is-off?r=af2rj&amp;amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;amp;utm_medium=web&amp;amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false"&gt;Tim and Andrew's 'Bulwark Take' after Trump's rally Tuesday night&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Exclusive $35 off Carver Mat at &lt;a href="https://on.auraframes.com/BULWARK"&gt;https://on.auraframes.com/BULWARK&lt;/a&gt;. Promo Code BULWARK&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;F*%k your khakis and get The Perfect Jean 15% off with the code BULWARK15 at &lt;a href="http://theperfectjean.nyc/BULWARK15"&gt;theperfectjean.nyc/BULWARK15&lt;/a&gt; #theperfectjeanpod&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
</description>

Big Boss Trump, who claims the power to run the whole government via executive order and pushes all our allies around, is a man suddenly with no agency when it comes to the economy. He says the high cost of living is a Democratic hoax, or in true Christmas spirit, he’s back to blaming parents for spoiling their daughters with too many dolls. 

Neera Tanden: America's 'Daddy' Is in a Rut

<description>&lt;div&gt;Heaping scorn and disdain on Europe, Trump called its countries decaying and its leaders weak, but the U.S. likely needs Europe more than they need us. And while POTUS is whining that Zelensky won't consider his rigged deal with Putin, the corruption of Trump's negotiating team is off the charts, with Witkoff and Kushner trying to work a land deal rather than a peace treaty. Meanwhile, the boat bombings seem to be about performative politics, Hegseth is pushing out another high-ranking black officer—for voicing concerns about the strikes on alleged drug-runners in the Caribbean—and where is the video of that Sept 2 restrike that killed two survivors? &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Lt. Gen Mark Hertling&lt;/strong&gt; joins Tim Miller.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;show notes:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-national-security-strategy-ways-means-ends-trump-foreign-policy-china-iran-russia-north-korea?r=af2rj&amp;amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;amp;utm_medium=web&amp;amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false"&gt;Hertling's piece on Trump's new National Security Strategy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://substack.com/@markhertling/note/p-180836963?utm_source=notes-share-action&amp;amp;r=af2rj"&gt;Hertling on the potential misuse of Special Forces in the boat strikes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://substack.com/@markhertling/note/p-180293959?utm_source=notes-share-action&amp;amp;r=af2rj"&gt;Remembering National Guard Specialist Sarah Beckstrom, by Hertling&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Email for Tim's mailbag: &lt;a href="mailto:BulwarkPodcast@thebulwark.com"&gt;BulwarkPodcast@thebulwark.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/09/trump-dasha-burns-interview-europe-immigration-ukraine-00682016?utm_content=topic/politics&amp;amp;utm_source=flipboard"&gt;Trump's Politico interview&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Exclusive $35 off Carver Mat at &lt;a href="https://on.auraframes.com/BULWARK"&gt;https://on.auraframes.com/BULWARK&lt;/a&gt;. Promo Code BULWARK&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
</description>

Heaping scorn and disdain on Europe, Trump called its countries decaying and its leaders weak, but the U.S. likely needs Europe more than they need us. And while POTUS is whining that Zelensky won't consider his rigged deal with Putin, the corruption of Trump's negotiating team is off the charts, with Witkoff and Kushner trying to work a land deal rather than a peace treaty.

Mark Hertling: Trump (Still) Hates Europe

<description>&lt;div&gt;ICE and Border Patrol are kidnapping people in the suburbs near New Orleans based on racial profiling—it’s like the South of 70 years ago. Mini Greg Bovino cares far more about his video team capturing him menacing and harassing people going about their lives than he does about due process and the Fourth Amendment. But despite her own pinup-style social media spreads, Trump may be readying to dump Kristi Noem from DHS. Meanwhile, the administration keeps creating new excuses for why it killed the two shipwrecked men near Venezuela, while also withholding key information. Plus, Trump is handing out more welfare checks to farmers, MTG says MAGA is not America First, the Dems get another shot this week on the affordability issue, Colin Allred may have been unwisely pushed out of the Texas Senate race, and Tim and Bill share a rare ‘you gotta hand it to Ted Cruz’ moment.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Bill Kristol &lt;/strong&gt;joins Tim Miller.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;show notes&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-dhs-homeland-security-secretary-noem-future?r=af2rj&amp;amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;amp;utm_medium=web&amp;amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false"&gt;Adrian's scoop on how Trump may be moving on from Noem&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wee-man-greg-bovino-wants-headlines-not-criminals/id1794450472?i=1000740143955"&gt;Tim's 'Bulwark Take' on the protests and raids in greater NOLA&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/sen-warner-on-the-boat-strike-crisis?r=af2rj&amp;amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;amp;utm_medium=web&amp;amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false"&gt;Bill's "Bulwark on Sunday" with Sen. Warner on the boat strikes&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/all-gas-no-brakes-trump-quakes-epsitein-boat-strike-inflation-affordability-no-kings-christmas-holidays?r=af2rj&amp;amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;amp;utm_medium=web&amp;amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false"&gt;Monday's "Morning Shots"&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://x.com/Timodc/status/1997725522613379297?s=20"&gt;Cruz's good tweet &lt;br&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
</description>

ICE and Border Patrol are kidnapping people in the suburbs near New Orleans based on racial profiling—it’s like the South of 70 years ago. Mini Greg Bovino cares far more about his video team capturing him menacing and harassing people going about their lives than he does about due process and the Fourth Amendment. But despite her own pinup-style social media spreads, Trump may be readying to dump Kristi Noem from DHS. 

Bill Kristol: This Is Not Democratic Government

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