Alicia Jo Rabins talks about her curriculum "Girls in Trouble", which centers around stories of female characters from the bible, as well as songs that she has written about them. Alicia Jo talks about the choice of the word “Trouble” and how as a girl growing up in a predominantly Christian neighborhood she was unfamiliar with Jewish perspectives on biblical characters and text study. Only when she started to study the Torah in depth as an adult did she discover that the characters were complex people, and encountered all manner of challenging life circumstances. She tells us that she found midrash after studying James Joyce’s “Ulysses” and found parallels in the way epic stories were reinterpreted to connect to everyday life. She talks about how classic midrash was in the form of text, but modern midrash is done in other art forms as well, including dance and music. Alicia Jo then discusses in depth her song “Snow/Scorpions and Spiders” including the original text that she drew from, drawing parallels to Moses’ experience on mount Sinai, and her own experience camping in the desert in Israel and at meditation retreats. We end on a discussion about the curriculum and the midrashim students have created. Listeners are invited to check out some examples at https://www.girlsintroublemusic.com/gallery/, and you can find more about the curriculum at https://www.girlsintroublemusic.com where the units are all available for purchase and download. Alicia Jo has a new film “A Kaddish for Bernie Madoff” is currently in submission to film festivals for 2021, with a planned release of 2022! Interview by Tamar Libicki