Anglotopia Podcast: Episode 88 – Castles, Crime & Cake – A Retired British Copper’s Accidental Guide to History
MAR 20, 202644 MIN
Anglotopia Podcast: Episode 88 – Castles, Crime & Cake – A Retired British Copper’s Accidental Guide to History
MAR 20, 202644 MIN
Description
In this episode of the Anglotopia Podcast, host Jonathan Thomas sits down with retired British police officer, military veteran, and author John Donoghue to discuss his remarkable journey from the Royal Navy and British Army to 40 years in the police — and then, in retirement, accidentally becoming a castle guide at Pembroke Castle in Wales. John's new book, *Castles, Crime and Cake: A Policeman's Accidental Guide to History*, blends laugh-out-loud stories from the beat with medieval history, bizarre forgotten British laws, and surprisingly profound reflections on finding purpose in later life. Along the way, Jonathan and John explore how British policing differs from American policing, the absurdity of some 999 emergency calls, what it means to police without firearms, the infamous Salmon Act of 1986, and the ghost of a murderous monkey haunting a Welsh castle.
Links
Castles, Crime and Cake by John Donoghue — Amazon Link
John's police memoir trilogy
Pembroke Castle, Wales — pembrokcastle.co.uk
Durham Constabulary — durham.police.uk
Friends of Anglotopia
Takeaways
John Donoghue served in the Royal Navy, British Army, and police across a 40-year career before retiring to become an accidental castle guide.
British police operate without firearms in most situations, relying instead on communication, humor, and patience to defuse confrontations.
The UK has 43 regional police forces, each covering a defined geographic area and handling all crimes within it — unlike America's layered federal, state, and local system.
"Policing by consent" means British officers see themselves as part of the community, earning authority through trust rather than force.
The 999 emergency line receives some truly baffling calls — including reports of stolen snowmen, dogs looking at people funny, and complaints about McDonald's breakfast hours.
John accidentally became a Pembroke Castle guide after sending a CV that included a photo of his dog eating birthday cake — and still got the job.
The Obscure Crime Preservation Society (membership: two, including Jonathan) was founded to highlight Britain's forgotten and bizarre laws still on the statute books.
The Salmon Act of 1986 makes it illegal to handle a salmon in suspicious circumstances — and John tried to get himself arrested under it.
Police humor and dark comedy are genuine coping mechanisms for officers exposed to high levels of trauma and PTSD.
The biggest life lesson John took from policing: approach everything with a sense of humor — it won't always work, but it's the best tool you have.
Soundbites
"I could either go to university like my brothers had, or do something more exciting. For me it was a choice between more schoolwork or a life of adventure — so I chose the latter." — John on why he joined the Royal Navy at 18.
"I thought, what other job would you have where a dog comes into the room and just does a poo and nobody says a word? So I thought, I've got to start writing these stories down." — John on the incident that convinced him to write his police memoirs.
"I've been punched, kicked, had broken bones, been stabbed in the face, put in hospital. That's the downside — but we don't carry guns because our public don't carry guns." — John on the realities of unarmed policing.
"We police because the community wants itself to be kept safe and kept lawful. We don't do it with a heavy hand — talk first, and then force if needs be. Not the other way around." — John explaining policing by consent.
"My CV basically consisted of: I can navigate a warship, I can shoot the enemy, and I can arrest baddies. So I thought it's not a great CV." — John on applying to work at Pembroke Castle.
"I want it to be like the best tour since Willy Wonka's tour of his factory — but with maybe less deaths." — John on his approach to castle guiding.
"Women can't eat chocolate on a bus. You can't wear armour in the House of Commons. You're not allowed to be drunk in a pub. These laws are still on the statute books." — John listing Britain's strangest surviving laws.
"The fishmonger asked if I wanted him gutted — but to be honest, he looked gutted enough already." — John on acquiring Steve the salmon for his Salmon Act experiment.
"Every contact leaves a trace — like fingerprints and DNA. And just the same, every contact leaves a trace on your soul. All that negativity can have an effect on you." — John on the psychological toll of policing.
"I don't know where they could have parked — it's double yellow lines outside." — A robbery victim's response moments after an armed raid, which John recalls as a reminder that hope is always the last thing left.
Chapters
00:00 Welcome & Introduction — Jonathan introduces John Donoghue and his new book
01:42 A Life of Service — From the Royal Navy to the British Army to the police
03:10 Writing the Police Memoirs — How bizarre incidents on the job inspired John to write
06:33 The Bravery Commendation — Rescuing a family (and their pets) from a house fire
07:50 Police Humor & the Women's Institute — Writing for a general audience
09:34 British vs. American Policing — Core similarities and key differences
10:51 Policing Without Firearms — What it's really like to work unarmed
12:45 Rank Structure Explained — What a PC is, and how it compares to American officers
13:44 How UK Police Forces Are Organized — 43 forces, one geographic system
15:39 Absurd 999 Calls — Stolen snowmen, dog stares, and McDonald's complaints
17:52 Policing by Consent — What it means in everyday practice
19:31 British Police Jargon Decoded — Response officers, custody suites, and more
20:11 Becoming an Accidental Castle Guide — The CV, the dog photo, and the job offer
23:31 The Crime Preservation Society — Breaking Britain's forgotten laws
25:25 The Salmon Act of 1986 — Handling Steve the salmon in suspicious circumstances
27:28 More Bizarre British Laws — Armour, top hats, chocolate, and convicted Egyptians
29:38 Obscure Laws in Police Training — What they never taught at the academy
30:22 Pembroke Castle — History, Henry VII, and why it's never been taken by force
31:45 The Monkey Ghost — A Welsh castle's most unusual haunting
34:20 Police Skills Meet Castle Tours — Crowd control, hecklers, and bored teenagers
36:01 Strangest Tourist Questions — Railway lines, castle roofs, and knight nurses
37:03 Getting Banned by a Police Force — How the books opened and closed doors
38:28 The Biggest Life Lesson from Policing — Humor, hope, and the Pandora's Box story
41:41 What's Next — Jesters, Roland the Farter, and no writing projects yet
43:37 Wrap-Up — Book details and how to find John's work
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