Today, we celebrate our Independence Day...courtesy of gay German director Roland Emmerich.  As the summer blockbuster celebrates its 30th anniversary, we're looking back on an alien disaster film that scared young Trace (thanks to that alien autopsy scene) and turned Will Smith into a star. Plus: the death that upsets the most; bemoaning Vivica A. Fox's career; pondering what could have been with the casting; why Smith's bravado and the film's patriotism doesn't always work for Joe; and plenty of riffing on the atrocious sequel. Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on BlueSky, Instagram, Youtube, Letterboxd, or join the Horror Queers Discord to get in touch with other listeners. > Trace: @tracedthurman (BlueSky)/ @tracedthurman (Instagram) > Joe: @joelipsett (BlueSky) / @bstolemyremote (Instagram)  Be sure to support the boys on Patreon!   Show Art: Travis Falligant  / Theme Music: Alexander Nakarada     Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.