<description>&lt;p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"&gt; All links and images can be found on &lt;a class= "underline underline underline-offset-2 decoration-1 decoration-current/40 hover:decoration-current focus:decoration-current" href="https://cisoseries.com/cybersecurity-has-become-a-cult/"&gt;CISO Series&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"&gt; We think of cybersecurity as a discipline. But when do ideas like best practices and NIST frameworks change into a system of belief?&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7369370330726895619/"&gt; Check out this post&lt;/a&gt; for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by &lt;a class= "underline underline underline-offset-2 decoration-1 decoration-current/40 hover:decoration-current focus:decoration-current" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidspark/"&gt;David Spark&lt;/a&gt;, the producer of &lt;a class= "underline underline underline-offset-2 decoration-1 decoration-current/40 hover:decoration-current focus:decoration-current" href="https://cisoseries.com/"&gt;CISO Series&lt;/a&gt;, and Davi Ottenheimer, principal, &lt;a class= "underline underline underline-offset-2 decoration-1 decoration-current/40 hover:decoration-current focus:decoration-current" href="http://flyingpenguin.com/"&gt;Flying Penguin&lt;/a&gt;. Joining is &lt;a class= "underline underline underline-offset-2 decoration-1 decoration-current/40 hover:decoration-current focus:decoration-current" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuacopeland/"&gt;Joshua Copeland&lt;/a&gt;, director of security, &lt;a class= "underline underline underline-offset-2 decoration-1 decoration-current/40 hover:decoration-current focus:decoration-current" href="https://www.crescendo.ai/"&gt;Crescendo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;In this episode:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul class= "[li_&amp;]:mb-0 [li_&amp;]:mt-1 [li_&amp;]:gap-1 [&amp;:not(:last-child)_ul]:pb-1 [&amp;:not(:last-child)_ol]:pb-1 list-disc flex flex-col gap-1 pl-8 mb-3"&gt; &lt;li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2"&gt; Tools, not religion&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2"&gt;The case for structured discipline&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2"&gt;The management problem underneath&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class= "font-claude-response-body whitespace-normal break-words pl-2"&gt;Fix the damn holes&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;A huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.threatlocker.com/ciso?utm_source=ciso-series&amp;utm_medium=sponsor&amp;utm_campaign=ztca_ztna_q2_26&amp;utm_content=ztca_ztna&amp;utm_term=podcast"&gt; &lt;img src= "//assets.libsyn.com/show/156524/banner-ad-ThreatLocker_Ciso_Banners_600x100-20250305-pxmvbdm8ou.png" alt="" width="601" height="100" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"&gt; ThreatLocker delivers Zero Trust Network Access and Zero Trust Cloud Access that verifies both user and device before granting access to specific applications. No broad access, nothing exposed, and no reliance on credentials alone. It's a smarter way to control access and reduce risk. &lt;a class= "underline underline underline-offset-2 decoration-1 decoration-current/40 hover:decoration-current focus:decoration-current" href= "https://www.threatlocker.com/ciso?utm_source=ciso-series&amp;utm_medium=sponsor&amp;utm_campaign=ztca_ztna_q2_26&amp;utm_content=ztca_ztna&amp;utm_term=podcast"&gt; Learn more at ThreatLocker.com/CISO.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Defense in Depth

David Spark, Steve Zalewski, Geoff Belknap

Has Cybersecurity Become a Cult?

JUN 4, 202633 MIN
Defense in Depth

Has Cybersecurity Become a Cult?

JUN 4, 202633 MIN

Description

All links and images can be found on CISO Series We think of cybersecurity as a discipline. But when do ideas like best practices and NIST frameworks change into a system of belief? Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Davi Ottenheimer, principal, Flying Penguin. Joining is Joshua Copeland, director of security, Crescendo. In this episode: Tools, not religion The case for structured discipline The management problem underneath Fix the damn holes A huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker ThreatLocker delivers Zero Trust Network Access and Zero Trust Cloud Access that verifies both user and device before granting access to specific applications. No broad access, nothing exposed, and no reliance on credentials alone. It's a smarter way to control access and reduce risk. Learn more at ThreatLocker.com/CISO.