How do we sustain ourselves for the revolution?  Dr Randa Abdel-Fattah is a multi award-winning novelist, human rights advocate, lawyer and sociologist researching Arab & Muslim social justice movements, Islamophobia and the war on terror. Yvonne Hong and Sara El Youghun are joined by Randa in conversation about the release of her new book Discipline, unpacking the daily reality of what it is to reconcile living in a world that dehumanises and censors you as a Palestinian.  Randa speaks about the power of creative fiction and the imagination to change the world; finding joy, discipline and building spaces we can nourish each other to be able to appreciate what are we fighting for, not just what we’re fighting against. You can order Discipline here from UQP. Special thanks to Sarah Valle for helping coordinate the interview, Shareeka Helaluddin, Samantha Haran and Alicia Zhao for producing this episodeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.