<p>Podcast host Meia Nouwens is joined by IISS experts Veerle Nouwens, Morgan Michaels and Darshana Baruah to reflect on the 22nd IISS Shangri-La Dialogue, which was held on 30 May–1 June 2025.&nbsp;</p><br><p>Meia, Veerle, Morgan and Darshana discuss key takeaways and topics include:&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><ul><li>US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and his landmark speech on the US’ new ambitions for the Indo-Pacific;&nbsp;</li><li>President Macron’s proposal for greater European-Asian engagement;</li><li>Prime Minister Dato’ Seri Anwar Bin Ibrahim's call for shared purpose and cooperation in order to prevent further fracturing of the international order and support peace and stability;&nbsp;and</li><li>how the wider Indo-Pacific dynamics featured in this year’s Shangri-La Dialogue, such as the security priorities of Pacific Island states and the ongoing conflict in Myanmar.&nbsp;</li></ul><p>&nbsp;</p><p>We hope you enjoy the episode and please follow, rate and subscribe to Sounds Strategic on the podcast platform of your choice.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Date of Recording:&nbsp;<strong>3 June 2025&nbsp;&nbsp;</strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>The podcast is recorded and produced by the IISS.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>