<p>Pamela Benson Owens is the President and CEO of <a href="https://www.pamelabensonowens.com/" target="_blank" title="https://www.pamelabensonowens.com/"><strong>Edge of Your Seat Consulting, Inc</strong></a> and is acting Executive Director of <a href="https://www.sixsquare.org/" target="_blank" title="https://www.sixsquare.org/"><strong>Six Square</strong></a>. For nearly 25 years, Pam has helped organizations manage perceptions around complex and challenging issues with courage and strategic passion. At the Austin Board of REALTORS®, she is an instrumental partner in ensuring we maintain a thriving staff culture that champions belonging and inclusion, with bold vision and courageous leadership. Pam is also the host of the <a href="https://www.pamelabensonowens.com/podcast" target="_blank" title="https://www.pamelabensonowens.com/podcast"><strong>Rooted</strong></a> podcast, which you can find on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rooted/id1481139397" target="_blank" title="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rooted/id1481139397"><strong>Apple Podcasts</strong></a>.</p> <p>Don't miss this unfiltered, real-talk conversation with Pam and Emily about the business of belonging, and all the ways that leaders and organizations often get it wrong, when they believe they're doing everything right</p> <p>Watch this interview on<strong> </strong><a href="https://youtu.be/2twlUOyQVk4"><strong>YouTube</strong></a>. You can check out all of our ScratchThat episodes on <a href="https://anchor.fm/scratchthatpodcast"><strong>Anchor</strong></a>, <a href="https://soundcloud.com/scratchthatatx"><strong>SoundCloud</strong></a>, <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/scratchthat/id1451326844"><strong>iTunes</strong></a>, <a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/scratchthat"><strong>Stitcher</strong></a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2JSVa6PKFuJbgNVW6Hw1OG"><strong>Spotify</strong>, </a>and <a href="https://play.google.com/music/listen#/ps/Ikjy562e5fqfmze5paymhhojgou"><strong>Google Play</strong></a>. Subscribe today!</p>