<p><a href="https://twitter.com/markdalgleish">Mark Dalgleish</a>, the creator of <a href="https://github.com/css-modules/css-modules">CSS Modules</a>, joins full stack developers <a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler">Ken Wheeler</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer">Jared Palmer</a> on <a href="https://undefined.fm">The Undefined</a> to talk about to talk design systems vs. component libraries  and the future of design tooling.</p><h2>Notes / Links</h2><ul><li><a href="https://github.com/css-modules/css-modules">CSS Modules</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/seek-oss/playroom">Playroom</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/seek-oss/braid-design-system">Braid Design System</a></li><li><a href="https://blueprintjs.com/">Blueprint.js</a></li><li><a href="https://material-ui.com/">Material UI</a></li><li><a href="https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/mobile/zero-effort-container-deployment-for-graphql-and-rest-apis-and-web-hosting-with-amplify-cli/">AWS Amplify Containers</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/atlassian/changesets">Changesets</a></li><li><a href="https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0zDDKyEkqqDA0YPQSyMksKclJVUjKTFcozkvMTgUArP4KxQ&q=little+big+snake&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS725US727&oq=littlebigsnake&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j46i10j0i10l5.3125j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8">Little Big Snake</a></li><li><a href="https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tLP1TfILkvLtSw0YPTiS65MSi0qKM3LVjAyMDcHAIFBCLo&q=cyberpunk+2077&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS725US727&oq=cybe&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j46i67i131i433j35i39j0i67j69i65j69i61j69i60l2.3408j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8">Cyberpunk 2077</a></li></ul><h2>Sponsor: <a href="https://undefined.fm/g2i">G2i</a></h2><p>If you’re building a new product, G2i is a company that can help you find a developer who can build the first version. G2i is a hiring platform run by engineers that matches you with React, React Native, GraphQL, and mobile engineers who you can trust. Whether you are a new company building your first product or an established company that wants additional engineering help, G2i has the talent you need to accomplish your goals. Go to <a href="https://undefined.fm/g2i">g2i.co</a> to learn more about what G2i has to offer.</p><h2>ICYMI: <a href="https://shop.undefined.fm">The Undefined Shop</a></h2><p>We launched an online store! Checkout <a href="https://shop.undefined.fm">https://shop.undefined.fm</a> for the dankest swag and accessories.</p><h2>Follow Us</h2><p>Mark Dalgleish - <a href="https://twitter.com/markdalgleish">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/markdalgleish">Github</a></p><p>Ken Wheeler – <a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/kenwheeler">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://kenwheeler.github.io">Website</a></p><p>Jared Palmer – <a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jaredpalmer">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://jaredpalmer.com">Website</a></p><p>The Undefined Podcast - <a href="https://twitter.com/theundefinedio">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://undefined.fm">Website</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1y-HPlhN45P7fVF0xcvWsg">YouTube</a>, <a href="https://shop.undefined.fm">Store</a></p>


<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/markdalgleish"&gt;Mark Dalgleish&lt;/a&gt;, the creator of &lt;a href="https://github.com/css-modules/css-modules"&gt;CSS Modules&lt;/a&gt;, joins full stack developers &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler"&gt;Ken Wheeler&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer"&gt;Jared Palmer&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="https://undefined.fm"&gt;The Undefined&lt;/a&gt; to talk about to talk design systems vs. component libraries  and the future of design tooling.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Notes / Links&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/css-modules/css-modules"&gt;CSS Modules&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/seek-oss/playroom"&gt;Playroom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/seek-oss/braid-design-system"&gt;Braid Design System&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blueprintjs.com/"&gt;Blueprint.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://material-ui.com/"&gt;Material UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/mobile/zero-effort-container-deployment-for-graphql-and-rest-apis-and-web-hosting-with-amplify-cli/"&gt;AWS Amplify Containers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/atlassian/changesets"&gt;Changesets&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0zDDKyEkqqDA0YPQSyMksKclJVUjKTFcozkvMTgUArP4KxQ&amp;q=little+big+snake&amp;rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS725US727&amp;oq=littlebigsnake&amp;aqs=chrome.1.69i57j46i10j0i10l5.3125j0j1&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8"&gt;Little Big Snake&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tLP1TfILkvLtSw0YPTiS65MSi0qKM3LVjAyMDcHAIFBCLo&amp;q=cyberpunk+2077&amp;rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS725US727&amp;oq=cybe&amp;aqs=chrome.1.69i57j46i67i131i433j35i39j0i67j69i65j69i61j69i60l2.3408j0j1&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8"&gt;Cyberpunk 2077&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Sponsor: &lt;a href="https://undefined.fm/g2i"&gt;G2i&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you’re building a new product, G2i is a company that can help you find a developer who can build the first version. G2i is a hiring platform run by engineers that matches you with React, React Native, GraphQL, and mobile engineers who you can trust. Whether you are a new company building your first product or an established company that wants additional engineering help, G2i has the talent you need to accomplish your goals. Go to &lt;a href="https://undefined.fm/g2i"&gt;g2i.co&lt;/a&gt; to learn more about what G2i has to offer.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;ICYMI: &lt;a href="https://shop.undefined.fm"&gt;The Undefined Shop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;We launched an online store! Checkout &lt;a href="https://shop.undefined.fm"&gt;https://shop.undefined.fm&lt;/a&gt; for the dankest swag and accessories.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Follow Us&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mark Dalgleish - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/markdalgleish"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://github.com/markdalgleish"&gt;Github&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ken Wheeler – &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://github.com/kenwheeler"&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://kenwheeler.github.io"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jared Palmer – &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://github.com/jaredpalmer"&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://jaredpalmer.com"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Undefined Podcast - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/theundefinedio"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://undefined.fm"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1y-HPlhN45P7fVF0xcvWsg"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://shop.undefined.fm"&gt;Store&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Mark Dalgleish, the co-creator of CSS Modules, joins full stack developers Ken Wheeler and Jared Palmer on the Undefined to talk about design systems vs. component libraries and the future of design tooling.

Rethinking Design Systems with Mark Dalgleish

<p><a href="https://twitter.com/adamwathan">Adam Wathan</a>, the creator of <a href="https://http://tailwindcss.com/">Tailwind CSS</a>, joins full stack developers <a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler">Ken Wheeler</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer">Jared Palmer</a> on <a href="https://undefined.fm">The Undefined</a> to talk about his path to becoming a developer, the big problems traditional CSS frameworks, what it's like to bootstrap a company, and the future of Tailwind.</p><h2>Featuring</h2><p>Adam Wathan - <a href="https://twitter.com/adamwathan">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/adamwathan">Github</a>, <a href="https://adamwathan.me/">Website</a></p><p>Ken Wheeler – <a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/kenwheeler">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://kenwheeler.github.io">Website</a></p><p>Jared Palmer – <a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jaredpalmer">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://jaredpalmer.com">Website</a></p><h2>Notes / Links</h2><ul><li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com">Tailwind CSS</a>: Utility-focused CSS Framework</li><li><a href="https://tailwindui.com">Tailwind UI</a>: Pre-built Components and Snippets for Tailwind CSS</li><li><a href="https://github.com/alpinejs/alpine">Alpine.js</a></li><li><a href="https://laravel.com/">Laravel</a> PHP Framework</li></ul><h2>Sponsor: <a href="https://bit.ly/39jTeAk">Prisma</a></h2><p>As a frontend developer, if you want to become fullstack, you'll find that the hardest part of backend development is working with a database.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/39jTeAk">Prisma</a> is a next-generation ORM and database toolkit that makes working with databases easy and helps frontend developers become fullstack!</p><p>Visit the <a href="https://bit.ly/3laWxMK">prisma-examples</a> repo for lots of ready-to-run starter projects with various frameworks and libraries, like Express, Apollo, NestJS or hapi. If you're a Next.js developer, be sure to visit <a href="https://bit.ly/2Jc85lR">prisma.io/nextjs</a> to learn more about how easy it is to integrate Prisma in your Next.js apps!</p><p>Prisma has a very active and welcoming community on <a href="https://slack.prisma.io">Slack</a> and on <a href="https://bit.ly/3leafhM">GitHub</a> where you can find help for any questions about the Prisma ecosystem.</p><h2>ICYMI: <a href="https://shop.undefined.fm">The Undefined Shop</a></h2><p>We launched an online store! Checkout <a href="https://shop.undefined.fm">https://shop.undefined.fm</a> for the dankest swag and accessories. 20% off all items during our Black Friday / Cyber Monday sale.</p>


<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/adamwathan"&gt;Adam Wathan&lt;/a&gt;, the creator of &lt;a href="https://http://tailwindcss.com/"&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;, joins full stack developers &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler"&gt;Ken Wheeler&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer"&gt;Jared Palmer&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="https://undefined.fm"&gt;The Undefined&lt;/a&gt; to talk about his path to becoming a developer, the big problems traditional CSS frameworks, what it's like to bootstrap a company, and the future of Tailwind.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Featuring&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;Adam Wathan - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/adamwathan"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://github.com/adamwathan"&gt;Github&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://adamwathan.me/"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ken Wheeler – &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://github.com/kenwheeler"&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://kenwheeler.github.io"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jared Palmer – &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://github.com/jaredpalmer"&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://jaredpalmer.com"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Notes / Links&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://tailwindcss.com"&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;: Utility-focused CSS Framework&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://tailwindui.com"&gt;Tailwind UI&lt;/a&gt;: Pre-built Components and Snippets for Tailwind CSS&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/alpinejs/alpine"&gt;Alpine.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://laravel.com/"&gt;Laravel&lt;/a&gt; PHP Framework&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Sponsor: &lt;a href="https://bit.ly/39jTeAk"&gt;Prisma&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;As a frontend developer, if you want to become fullstack, you'll find that the hardest part of backend development is working with a database.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://bit.ly/39jTeAk"&gt;Prisma&lt;/a&gt; is a next-generation ORM and database toolkit that makes working with databases easy and helps frontend developers become fullstack!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Visit the &lt;a href="https://bit.ly/3laWxMK"&gt;prisma-examples&lt;/a&gt; repo for lots of ready-to-run starter projects with various frameworks and libraries, like Express, Apollo, NestJS or hapi. If you're a Next.js developer, be sure to visit &lt;a href="https://bit.ly/2Jc85lR"&gt;prisma.io/nextjs&lt;/a&gt; to learn more about how easy it is to integrate Prisma in your Next.js apps!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Prisma has a very active and welcoming community on &lt;a href="https://slack.prisma.io"&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt; and on &lt;a href="https://bit.ly/3leafhM"&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt; where you can find help for any questions about the Prisma ecosystem.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;ICYMI: &lt;a href="https://shop.undefined.fm"&gt;The Undefined Shop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;We launched an online store! Checkout &lt;a href="https://shop.undefined.fm"&gt;https://shop.undefined.fm&lt;/a&gt; for the dankest swag and accessories. 20% off all items during our Black Friday / Cyber Monday sale.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>

Adam Wathan, the creator of Tailwind CSS joins full stack developers Ken Wheeler and Jared Palmer on the Undefined to talk about his path to becoming a developer, the big problems traditional CSS frameworks, what it's like to bootstrap a company, and the future of Tailwind.

Atomic CSS with Adam Wathan, Creator of Tailwind CSS

<p><a href="https://twitter.com/youyuxi">Evan You</a>, the creator of <a href="http://vuejs.org">Vue.js</a>, and <a href="twitter.com/rich_harris">Rich Harris</a>, Graphics Editor at The New York Times and creator of <a href="https://svelte.dev">Svelte</a> and <a href="https://rollupjs.org">Rollup</a>, join hosts <a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler">Ken Wheeler</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer">Jared Palmer</a> on <a href="https://undefined.fm">The Undefined</a> to talk about the future of frontend development.</p><h2>Featuring</h2><p>Evan You - <a href="https://twitter.com/youyuxi">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/yyx990803">Github</a>, <a href="https://evanyou.me/">Website</a></p><p>Rich Harris - <a href="twitter.com/rich_harris">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/Rich-Harris">Github</a></p><p>Ken Wheeler – <a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/kenwheeler">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://kenwheeler.github.io">Website</a></p><p>Jared Palmer – <a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jaredpalmer">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://jaredpalmer.com">Website</a></p><h2>Sponsor: <a href="https://bit.ly/39jTeAk">Prisma</a></h2><p>As a frontend developer, if you want to become fullstack, you'll find that the hardest part of backend development is working with a database.</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/39jTeAk">Prisma</a> is a next-generation ORM and database toolkit that makes working with databases easy and helps frontend developers become fullstack!</p><p>Visit the <a href="https://bit.ly/3laWxMK">prisma-examples</a> repo for lots of ready-to-run starter projects with various frameworks and libraries, like Express, Apollo, NestJS or hapi. If you're a Next.js developer, be sure to visit <a href="https://bit.ly/2Jc85lR">prisma.io/nextjs</a> to learn more about how easy it is to integrate Prisma in your Next.js apps!</p><p>Prisma has a very active and welcoming community on <a href="https://slack.prisma.io">Slack</a> and on <a href="https://bit.ly/3leafhM">GitHub</a> where you can find help for any questions about the Prisma ecosystem.</p><h2>Sponsor: <a href="https://undefined.fm/g2i">G2i</a></h2><p>If you’re building a new product, G2i is a company that can help you find a developer who can build the first version. G2i is a hiring platform run by engineers that matches you with React, React Native, GraphQL, and mobile engineers who you can trust. Whether you are a new company building your first product or an established company that wants additional engineering help, G2i has the talent you need to accomplish your goals. Go to <a href="https://undefined.fm/g2i">g2i.co</a> to learn more about what G2i has to offer.</p><h2>ICYMI: <a href="https://shop.undefined.fm">The Undefined Shop</a></h2><p>We launched an online store! Checkout <a href="https://shop.undefined.fm">https://shop.undefined.fm</a> for the dankest swag and accessories. 20% off all items during our Black Friday / Cyber Monday sale.</p>


<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/youyuxi"&gt;Evan You&lt;/a&gt;, the creator of &lt;a href="http://vuejs.org"&gt;Vue.js&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="twitter.com/rich_harris"&gt;Rich Harris&lt;/a&gt;, Graphics Editor at The New York Times and creator of &lt;a href="https://svelte.dev"&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://rollupjs.org"&gt;Rollup&lt;/a&gt;, join hosts &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler"&gt;Ken Wheeler&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer"&gt;Jared Palmer&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="https://undefined.fm"&gt;The Undefined&lt;/a&gt; to talk about the future of frontend development.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Featuring&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;Evan You - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/youyuxi"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://github.com/yyx990803"&gt;Github&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://evanyou.me/"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rich Harris - &lt;a href="twitter.com/rich_harris"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://github.com/Rich-Harris"&gt;Github&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ken Wheeler – &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://github.com/kenwheeler"&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://kenwheeler.github.io"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jared Palmer – &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://github.com/jaredpalmer"&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://jaredpalmer.com"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Sponsor: &lt;a href="https://bit.ly/39jTeAk"&gt;Prisma&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;As a frontend developer, if you want to become fullstack, you'll find that the hardest part of backend development is working with a database.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://bit.ly/39jTeAk"&gt;Prisma&lt;/a&gt; is a next-generation ORM and database toolkit that makes working with databases easy and helps frontend developers become fullstack!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Visit the &lt;a href="https://bit.ly/3laWxMK"&gt;prisma-examples&lt;/a&gt; repo for lots of ready-to-run starter projects with various frameworks and libraries, like Express, Apollo, NestJS or hapi. If you're a Next.js developer, be sure to visit &lt;a href="https://bit.ly/2Jc85lR"&gt;prisma.io/nextjs&lt;/a&gt; to learn more about how easy it is to integrate Prisma in your Next.js apps!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Prisma has a very active and welcoming community on &lt;a href="https://slack.prisma.io"&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt; and on &lt;a href="https://bit.ly/3leafhM"&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt; where you can find help for any questions about the Prisma ecosystem.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Sponsor: &lt;a href="https://undefined.fm/g2i"&gt;G2i&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you’re building a new product, G2i is a company that can help you find a developer who can build the first version. G2i is a hiring platform run by engineers that matches you with React, React Native, GraphQL, and mobile engineers who you can trust. Whether you are a new company building your first product or an established company that wants additional engineering help, G2i has the talent you need to accomplish your goals. Go to &lt;a href="https://undefined.fm/g2i"&gt;g2i.co&lt;/a&gt; to learn more about what G2i has to offer.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;ICYMI: &lt;a href="https://shop.undefined.fm"&gt;The Undefined Shop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;We launched an online store! Checkout &lt;a href="https://shop.undefined.fm"&gt;https://shop.undefined.fm&lt;/a&gt; for the dankest swag and accessories. 20% off all items during our Black Friday / Cyber Monday sale.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>

Evan You, the creator of Vue.js, and Rich Harris, creator of Svelte and Rollup, join hosts Ken Wheeler and Jared Palmer on the Undefined to talk about the future of frontend development.

Vue vs. Svelte with Evan You and Rich Harris

<p>Full stack developers <a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler">Ken Wheeler</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer">Jared Palmer</a> talk about the future of the JAMStack, their experiences with serverless functions, debate Next.js vs. Gatsby, and so much more.</p><h2>Featuring</h2><p>Ken Wheeler – <a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/kenwheeler">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://kenwheeler.github.io">Website</a></p><p>Jared Palmer – <a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jaredpalmer">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://jaredpalmer.com">Website</a></p><h2>Picks</h2><ul><li><a href="https://amzn.to/2MoFrfP">Alen 75i Air Purifier (get the VOC filter)</a>. Also be sure to watch/listen to this talk:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRqh8oLY7Ik">Why Air Quality Matters</a> by <a href="https://twitter.com/dhh">@DHH</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/zeit/next.js/issues/9524">Next.js Static Site Generation API</a></li></ul><h2>ICYMI: <a href="https://shop.undefined.fm">The Undefined Shop</a></h2><p>We launched an online store! Checkout <a href="https://shop.undefined.fm">https://shop.undefined.fm</a> for the dankest swag and accessories.</p>


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Hosts Ken Wheeler and Jared Palmer talk about the future of the JAMStack, their experiences with serverless functions, Next.js vs. Gatsby, and so much more. 

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<p><a href="https://twitter.com/kwuchu">Iheanyi Ekechukwu</a> is a Software Engineer at <a href="https://github.com/">GitHub</a> on the Actions team and co-host of the <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-black-nerds/id980155753">Two Black Nerds</a> podcast. Prior to GitHub, Iheanyi was a Software Engineer at <a href="https://digitalocean.com">Digital Ocean</a>. He joins hosts <a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler">Ken Wheeler</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer">Jared Palmer</a> on <a href="https://undefined.fm">The Undefined</a> to talk about his path to becoming a full stack developer, what it's like to work at GitHub, and how he ships awesome side projects.</p><h2>Featuring</h2><p>Iheanyi Ekechukwu - <a href="https://twitter.com/kwuchu">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/iheanyi">Github</a>, <a href="https://iheanyi.com">Website</a></p><p>Ken Wheeler – <a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/kenwheeler">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://kenwheeler.github.io">Website</a></p><p>Jared Palmer – <a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jaredpalmer">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://jaredpalmer.com">Website</a></p><h2>Sponsor: <a href="https://undefined.fm/trackjs/">TrackJS</a></h2><p>JavaScript breaks sometimes. Even the code you write. You need to know when things start crashing in production.</p><p>TrackJS Error Monitoring for JavaScript quickly integrates with your front-end or node application, regardless of framework, so you know when a bug gets out. TrackJS installs in minutes, and you get context about what the user, network, and application were doing before an error. It's like having an airplane's blackbox in your UI, so you can find, recreate, and fix problems fast.</p><p>TrackJS is an engineer-owned cloud service that will make your JavaScript better and your website more reliable. Try it free at <a href="https://undefined.fm/trackjs">https://undefined.fm/trackjs</a>.</p><h2>ICYMI: <a href="https://shop.undefined.fm">The Undefined Shop</a></h2><p>We launched an online store! Checkout <a href="https://shop.undefined.fm">https://shop.undefined.fm</a> for the dankest swag and accessories.</p>


<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/kwuchu"&gt;Iheanyi Ekechukwu&lt;/a&gt; is a Software Engineer at &lt;a href="https://github.com/"&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt; on the Actions team and co-host of the &lt;a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-black-nerds/id980155753"&gt;Two Black Nerds&lt;/a&gt; podcast. Prior to GitHub, Iheanyi was a Software Engineer at &lt;a href="https://digitalocean.com"&gt;Digital Ocean&lt;/a&gt;. He joins hosts &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler"&gt;Ken Wheeler&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer"&gt;Jared Palmer&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="https://undefined.fm"&gt;The Undefined&lt;/a&gt; to talk about his path to becoming a full stack developer, what it's like to work at GitHub, and how he ships awesome side projects.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Featuring&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;Iheanyi Ekechukwu - &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/kwuchu"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://github.com/iheanyi"&gt;Github&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://iheanyi.com"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ken Wheeler – &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://github.com/kenwheeler"&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://kenwheeler.github.io"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jared Palmer – &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/jaredpalmer"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://github.com/jaredpalmer"&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://jaredpalmer.com"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Sponsor: &lt;a href="https://undefined.fm/trackjs/"&gt;TrackJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;JavaScript breaks sometimes. Even the code you write. You need to know when things start crashing in production.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;TrackJS Error Monitoring for JavaScript quickly integrates with your front-end or node application, regardless of framework, so you know when a bug gets out. TrackJS installs in minutes, and you get context about what the user, network, and application were doing before an error. It's like having an airplane's blackbox in your UI, so you can find, recreate, and fix problems fast.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;TrackJS is an engineer-owned cloud service that will make your JavaScript better and your website more reliable. Try it free at &lt;a href="https://undefined.fm/trackjs"&gt;https://undefined.fm/trackjs&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;ICYMI: &lt;a href="https://shop.undefined.fm"&gt;The Undefined Shop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;We launched an online store! Checkout &lt;a href="https://shop.undefined.fm"&gt;https://shop.undefined.fm&lt;/a&gt; for the dankest swag and accessories.&lt;/p&gt;
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Iheanyi Ekechukwu is a Software Engineer at GitHub on the Actions team and co-host of the Two Black Nerds podcast. Prior to GitHub, Iheanyi was a Software Engineer at Digital Ocean. He joins hosts Ken Wheeler and Jared Palmer on the Undefined to talk about his path to becoming a full stack developer, what it's like to work at GitHub, and how he ships awesome side projects.

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