In Episode 086 of Considering the Cinema, your hosts — Jason Pyles, Mack Robins, and Dave Becker — are Considering the New York Times’ 100 Best Movies of the 21st Century (and the year 2000), a list that’s bold, baffling, and sure to stir debate! But there’s an odd twist … the Times seems to think the year 2000 is part of the 21st century (it’s not), and Jason’s co-hosts were not given advance notice about this episode’s topic. That’s right — Jason springs this mystery agenda on Mack and Dave in real time, creating an off-the-cuff episode that’s unfiltered, unprepared, and unexpectedly insightful! Despite the surprise, your hosts charge headlong through the NYT list, highlighting the films that deserve to be there, calling out those that don’t, and passionately lamenting the glaring omissions with an extensive list of oversights over their own at the end of the show. Jason also reveals what he believes to be “the most underrated, under-appreciated film of all time” — Mack is man enough to admit when he hasn’t seen a well-known film — and Dave reveals that he doesn’t give a damn about Jay’s rules for the episode! As the trio reflects, reacts, and builds their own Top 100 lists on the fly, listeners are treated to a spirited and spontaneous discussion and debates that challenge the canon and champions the overlooked and under-appreciated. If you love movies — and strong opinions about them — this is one cinematic showdown you won’t want to miss! Note from Jason: Though I have no love for The New York Times, I maintain some sense of decorum and will not publish its entire list here in the show notes. Therefore, I will include important and notable highlights from this episode! Join us! Another note: This episode was recorded on July 8, 2025, and it released on July 22, 2025. Jay of the Dead also hosts a WEEKLY HORROR MOVIE PODCAST with Mister Watson at Horror Movie Weekly.com. And of course, every Horror fan should check out Jay of the Dead’s New Horror Movies, The Gold Standard of Horror Movie Podcasts. Thanks for listening to Considering the Cinema Podcast and Considering Horror Cinema, The Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde of Movie Podcasting… Don’t forget: You can email Jay, Mack and even Dr. Shock at [email protected] or post a comment in the show notes for this episode. SHOW NOTES: Considering the Cinema Episode 086 [ 00:00:01 ] – Introduction – As this is recorded, July 8, 2025, it is the 20-year anniversary of the release of “Fantastic Four” (2005) in U.S. theaters – Agenda: Discuss The New York Times’ newly released list (6/28/25) of the “The 100 Best Movies of the 21st Century” – Jason reviews “the rules” for this episode – Apparently, the New York Times doesn’t understand what constitutes “the 21st century” – An excerpt from the NY Times preface to their list Films That One or Two CTC Hosts Would Include on Their Top 100 Best: Grizzly Man (2005) – Jason, Dave Gravity (2013) – Dave, Jason Interstellar (2014) – Mack Past Lives (2023) – Dave Black Swan (2010) – Dave O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000) – Mack The Florida Project (2017) – Dave Let the Right One In (2008) — HORROR – Jason, Dave Spotlight (2015) – Dave Gone Girl (2014) – Jason, Dave Memento (2001) – Jason, Dave Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003) – Dave Best in Show (2000) – Dave Punch-Drunk Love (2002) – Jason, Dave Pan’s Labyrinth (2006) – Jason, Dave 12 Years a Slave (2013) – Jason, Dave Up (2009) – Dave Before Sunset (2004) – Dave Almost Famous (2000) – Dave Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood (2019) – Jason, Dave Old Boy (2005) – Jason, Dave Amelie (2001) – Jason, Dave Wall-E (2008) – Dave The Departed (2006) – Jason, Dave Lost in Translation (2003) – Dave Adaptation. (2002) – Jason, Dave Phantom Thread (2017) – Dave Her (2013) – Dave Boyhood (2014) – Jason, Dave The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014) – Jason, Dave The Royal Tenenbaums (2001) – Jason, Dave The Wolf of Wall Street (2013) – Dave Zodiac (2007) – Dave Y Tu Mama Tambien (2002) – Dave Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000) – Mack, Dave City of God (2003) – Dave Inglourious Basterds (2009) – Jason, Dave The Social Network (2010) – Dave Get Out (2017) – Dave No Country for Old Men (2007) – Jason, Dave In the Mood for Love (2001) – Mack, Dave There Will Be Blood (2007) – Jason, Dave Mulholland Drive (2001) – Dave Parasite (2019) – Dave Films That All Three Hosts Agree Should Be Included: Minority Report (2002) – Jason, Mack, Dave The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) – Jason, Mack, Dave Ocean’s Eleven (2001) – Jason, Mack, Dave Inception (2010) – Jason, Mack, Dave Arrival (2016) – Jason, Mack, Dave The Dark Knight (2008) – Jason, Mack, Dave Children of Men (2006) – Jason, Mack, Dave Mad Max: Fury Road (2015) – Jason, Mack, Dave Spirited Away (2002) – Jason, Mack, Dave Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) – Jason, Mack, Dave Strong Objections to the NY Times’ Inclusion on This List: Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (2004) – Jason, Mack The Act of Killing (2013) – Jason Ratatouille (2007) – Jason Up (2009) – Jason Jason’s Watchlist Homework (From His Co-hosts): In the Mood for Love (2001) In the Bedroom (2001) The Captain (2017) Mack’s Watchlist Homework (From His Co-hosts): Let the Right One In (2008) Amelie (2001) Adaptation. (2002) Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood (2019) No Country for Old Men (2007) There Will Be Blood (2007) Bone Tomahawk (2015) Rachel Getting Married (2008) Dave’s Watchlist Homework (From His Co-hosts): Warrior (2011) Run Hide Fight (2021) Glaring Omissions — if We Also Counted the Year 2000 Battle Royale (2000) – Dave Shadow of the Vampire (2000) – Dave Sexy Beast (2000) – Dave, Jason Meet the Parents (2000) – Jason Frequency (2000) – Jason Moulin Rouge! (2001) – Dave The Ring (2002) – Mack, Jason, Dave 1917 (2019) – Jason, Mack, Dave Gosford Park (2001) – Dave Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl (2003) – Mack, Jason, Dave 28 Days Later… (2002) – Jason, Dave 25th Hour (2002) – Dave, Jason Pride and Prejudice (2005) – Mack A Ghost Story (2017) – Jason, Dave Hero (2002) – Dave Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom (2013) – Mack About Time (2013) – Jason, Mack The Dreamers (2003) – Dave Set It Up (2018) – Mack Apocalypto (2006) – Jason American Splendor (2003) – Dave The Prestige (2006) – Mack, Jason Blue Ruin (2013) – Jason Downfall (2004) – Dave, Jason Godzilla (2014) – Mack Bone Tomahawk (2015) – Jason, Dave The Descent (2005) – Dave, Jason The Others (2001) – Mack, Jason Captain Fantastic (2016) – Jason, Dave The Proposition (2005) – Dave, Jason Dune: Part One (2021) – Mack, Jason, Dave Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (2014) – Jason Casino Royale (2006) – Dave Oddity (2024) – Mack, Jason Fantastic Mr. Fox (2009) – Jason Inside (2007) – Dave, Jason A Quiet Place (2018) – Mack, Jason, Dave The Incredibles (2004) – Jason Rachel Getting Married (2008) – Dave, Jason The Batman (2022) – Mack Jodorowsky’s Dune (2013) Where the Wild Things Are (2009) – Dave Prey (2022) – Mack Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (2003) – Jason True Grit (2010) – Dave, Jason The Fall Guy (2024) – Mack No Escape (2015) – Jason Midnight in Paris (2011) – Dave, Jason Dunkirk (2017) – Mack Room (2015) – Jason The Perks of Being a Wallflower (2012) – Dave, Jason Scott Pilgrim vs. The World (2010) – Mack Lion (2016) – Jason, Dave Django Unchained (2012) – Dave, Jason Kong: Skull Island (2017) – Mack The Village (2004) – Jason, Mack, Evil Dead (2013) – Dave District 9 (2009) – Mack, Jason The Dead (2010) – Jason, Dave Birdman (or the Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) (2014) – Dave Edge of Tomorrow (2014) – Mack The Hateful 8 (2015) – Jason, Dave The Revenant (2015) – Dave, Jason Won’t You Be My Neighbor (2018) – Mack The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) – Jason, Dave Train to Busan (2016) – Dave Kubo and the Two Strings (2016) – Dave, Mack Nacho Libre (2006) – Mack Napoleon Dynamite (2004) – Dave, Jason The Imposter (2012) – Jason Blade Runner 2049 (2017) – Dave Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021) – Mack Touching the Void (2003) – Jason Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri (2017) – Dave The Wild Robot (2024) – Mack Avengers: Infinity War (2018) – Jason Avengers: Endgame (2019) – Jason The Ballad of Buster Scruggs (2018) – Dave The Phantom of the Opera (2005) – Mack Warrior (2011) – Jason Terrified (2017) – Dave Lars and the Real Girl (2007) – Mack, Jason In the Bedroom (2001) – Dave Godzilla Minus One (2023) – Mack, Jason Elephant (2003) – Dave Run Hide Fight (2021) – Jason Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol (2011) – Mack, Jason Spider-Man 2 (2004) – Dave Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018) – Mack Sin City (2005) – Dave, Jason Oblivion (2013) – Mack The Host (2006) – Dave Alien: Romulus (2024) – Mack, Jason Moonrise Kingdom (2012) – Dave Top Gun: Maverick (2022) – Mack Timecrimes (2007) – Dave, Jason Ip Man (2008) – Mack Primer (2004) – Jason 24-Hour Party People (2002) – Dave Departures (2008) – Mack Troll Hunter (2010) – Dave Apollo 11 (2019) – Mack Red State (2011) – Dave, Jason Life of Pi (2012) – Dave Dredd (2012) – Dave Locke (2013) – Dave Only Lovers Left Alive (2013) – Dave It Follows (2014) – Dave The Final Girls (2015) – Dave Green Room (2016) – Dave The Devil’s Candy (2017) – Dave The Captain (2017) – Dave The Death of Stalin (2018) – Dave Doctor Sleep (2019) – Dave The Devil’s Rejects (2005) – Dave Match Point (2005) – Dave Toy Story 3 (2010) – Dave The Devil and Daniel Johnston (2005) – Jason Wrap-Up Links for this episode: Catch up with Mack here: – Horror podcast: Jay of the Dead’s New Horror Movies — IMDb.com Page: Mack Robins Catch up with Dr. Shock here: – Horror podcast: Jay of the Dead’s New Horror Movies — Blog: DVD Infatuation.com — Podcast: The DVD Infatuation Podcast — Horror podcast: Land of the Creeps — Podcast: The Illustrated Fan — Movie Podcast Weekly has returned for MONTHLY releases — Listen to Jay of the Dead’s Horror Movie Weekly with Mister Watson every Sunday! 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