We all have “love issues.” John 13:35 says that love is to be our identifying mark as Christians – not our wisdom or spiritual gifts or activity – but being a loving person is difficult. Jada Edwards has a new book out called A New Way to Love Your Neighbor that she wrote out of a season where she struggled to love well. The Lord revealed to her that she couldn’t be the originator of grace for other people. She needed God to reveal His love for her specifically, continually, so she’d be filled up with love to give. Jada and the Perrys explore the definition of agape love in which the person initiating the love determines the value of the one they love. They talk about how Biblical love for others almost always requires decision – deciding to love – instead of affection. And ultimately, love needs wisdom to be effective. We need to slow down, pray, and ask Holy Spirit to guide us in how to love. Scripture references:John 13:351 John 4:8Connect with Jada: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jada_edwards/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/jada_edwards/</a> This Episode is Sponsored By: <a href="https://gominno.com">https://gominno.com</a> — Get your first month FREE when you use code PERRY at sign up. Take advantage of this web-only exclusive offer today! <a href="https://policygenius.com/perry">https://policygenius.com/perry</a> — Compare free life insurance quotes from top companies and see how much you could save. Check out A New Way to Love Your Neighbor: Be Curious, Free, and Brave―How to Transform your Relationship with God and Others – <a href="https://www.amazon.com/New-Way-Love-Your-Neighbor/dp/1087789184" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/New-Way-Love-Your-Neighbor/dp/1087789184</a>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;We all have “love issues.” John 13:35 says that love is to be our identifying mark as Christians – not our wisdom or spiritual gifts or activity – but being a loving person is difficult.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jada Edwards has a new book out called &lt;i&gt;A New Way to Love Your Neighbor &lt;/i&gt;that she wrote out of a season where she struggled to love well. The Lord revealed to her that she couldn’t be the originator of grace for other people. She needed God to reveal His love for her specifically, continually, so she’d be filled up with love to give.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jada and the Perrys explore the definition of agape love in which the person initiating the love determines the value of the one they love. They talk about how Biblical love for others almost always requires decision – deciding to love – instead of affection. And ultimately, love needs wisdom to be effective. We need to slow down, pray, and ask Holy Spirit to guide us in how to love.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Scripture references:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;John 13:35&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 John 4:8&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Jada: &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/jada_edwards/" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.instagram.com/jada_edwards/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This Episode is Sponsored By:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://gominno.com"&gt;https://gominno.com&lt;/a&gt; — Get your first month FREE when you use code PERRY at sign up. Take advantage of this web-only exclusive offer today!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://policygenius.com/perry"&gt;https://policygenius.com/perry&lt;/a&gt; — Compare free life insurance quotes from top companies and see how much you could save.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Check out &lt;i&gt;A New Way to Love Your Neighbor: Be Curious, Free, and Brave―How to Transform your Relationship with God and Others – &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/New-Way-Love-Your-Neighbor/dp/1087789184" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;i&gt;https://www.amazon.com/New-Way-Love-Your-Neighbor/dp/1087789184&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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We all have “love issues.” John 13:35 says that love is to be our identifying mark as Christians – not our wisdom or spiritual gifts or activity – but being a loving person is difficult.

“What’s Love Got to do With it” with Jada Edwards

Before they were podcasters, the Perrys did spoken-word poetry, and this week’s guest had a profound impact on them as one of the first “viral” Christian poets online. Blair (Wingo) Linne joins Jackie and Preston to talk about her new book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Made-Tremble-Anxiety-Became-Happened/dp/1430096365/">Made to Tremble: How Anxiety Became the Best Thing That Ever Happened to My Faith</a>. Blair discusses how past traumas – including the sudden death of her infant brother and a car accident that totaled their family vehicle – shaped her present anxiety and how that anxiety drove her even closer to the Lord. She explains how all of Scripture points to peace as a person – God is our peace, which means that peace is not a result of our circumstances. Blair’s encouragement is to find the Lord and trust that He’s going to be with you, even if He has you trembling for the rest of your life.Follow Blair: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/blairlinne_/">https://www.instagram.com/blairlinne_/</a>Check out her new book, Made to Tremble: How Anxiety Became the Best Thing That Ever Happened to My Faith: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Made-Tremble-Anxiety-Became-Happened/dp/1430096365/">https://www.amazon.com/Made-Tremble-Anxiety-Became-Happened/dp/1430096365/</a>Scripture references:<ul><li>Philippians 4:4-7</li><li>2 Corinthians 4:7-10</li><li>Hebrews 12:14-24, 28-29</li></ul> This Episode is Sponsored By:<a href="https://weekendtoremember.com">https://weekendtoremember.com</a> — Get 50% off during FamilyLife’s Black Friday sale!<a href="https://brooklynbedding.com">https://brooklynbedding.com</a> — Get 30% off sitewide when you use code PERRY at checkout.
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<description>&lt;p&gt;Before they were podcasters, the Perrys did spoken-word poetry, and this week’s guest had a profound impact on them as one of the first “viral” Christian poets online. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Blair (Wingo) Linne joins Jackie and Preston to talk about her new book, &lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Made-Tremble-Anxiety-Became-Happened/dp/1430096365/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Made to Tremble: How Anxiety Became the Best Thing That Ever Happened to My Faith&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Blair discusses how past traumas – including the sudden death of her infant brother and a car accident that totaled their family vehicle – shaped her present anxiety and how that anxiety drove her even closer to the Lord. She explains how all of Scripture points to peace as a person – God is our peace, which means that peace is not a result of our circumstances. Blair’s encouragement is to find the Lord and trust that He’s going to be with you, even if He has you trembling for the rest of your life.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Follow Blair: &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/blairlinne_/"&gt;https://www.instagram.com/blairlinne_/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Check out her new book, &lt;i&gt;Made to Tremble: How Anxiety Became the Best Thing That Ever Happened to My Faith: &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Made-Tremble-Anxiety-Became-Happened/dp/1430096365/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;https://www.amazon.com/Made-Tremble-Anxiety-Became-Happened/dp/1430096365/&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Scripture references:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Philippians 4:4-7&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;2 Corinthians 4:7-10&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Hebrews 12:14-24, 28-29&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This Episode is Sponsored By:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://weekendtoremember.com"&gt;https://weekendtoremember.com&lt;/a&gt; — Get 50% off during FamilyLife’s Black Friday sale!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://brooklynbedding.com"&gt;https://brooklynbedding.com&lt;/a&gt; — Get 30% off sitewide when you use code PERRY at checkout.&lt;/p&gt;
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Before they were podcasters, the Perrys did spoken-word poetry, and this week’s guest had a profound impact on them as one of the first “viral” Christian poets online.

A Conversation About Anxiety with Blair Linne

The Perrys are joined by Yana Conner, a writer and theologian passionate about understanding the character of God. Her new book, Living Beyond Offense, digs into the idea that forgiveness is at the heart of our faith. Why’s that? Because every time we forgive, we put the gospel on display.Yana shares honestly about writing this book while wrestling with her own relationships. She talks about how “turning the other cheek” is meant to restore and not enable, why God calls us to be “shalom makers,” and how forgiveness is less about forgiving yourself but about living forgiven. Scripture references:<ul><li>Ephesians 1:9-10</li><li>Genesis 3</li><li>Romans 8:31-34</li><li>John 13:1-10, 21-27</li><li>John 17</li><li>Psalm 139</li><li>Matthew 18</li></ul>Grab a copy of Yana's new book, Living Beyond Offense: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Living-Beyond-Offense-Doing-Forgiveness/dp/0736990348/" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Living-Beyond-Offense-Doing-Forgiveness/dp/0736990348/</a>Connect with Yana: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/yanajenay/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/yanajenay/</a>This Episode is Sponsored By:<a href="https://policygenius.com/perry">https://policygenius.com/perry</a> — Compare free life insurance quotes from top companies and see how much you could save.<a href="https://weekendtoremember.com">https://weekendtoremember.com</a> — Get 50% off during FamilyLife’s Black Friday sale!<a href="https://brickhousesale.com">https://brickhousesale.com</a> — Get 30% off during the Black Friday sale!
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<description>&lt;p&gt;The Perrys are joined by Yana Conner, a writer and theologian passionate about understanding the character of God. Her new book, &lt;i&gt;Living Beyond Offense&lt;/i&gt;, digs into the idea that forgiveness is at the heart of our faith. Why’s that? Because every time we forgive, we put the gospel on display.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yana shares honestly about writing this book while wrestling with her own relationships. She talks about how “turning the other cheek” is meant to restore and not enable, why God calls us to be “shalom makers,” and how forgiveness is less about forgiving yourself but about living forgiven. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Scripture references:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ephesians 1:9-10&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Genesis 3&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Romans 8:31-34&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;John 13:1-10, 21-27&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;John 17&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Psalm 139&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Matthew 18&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Grab a copy of Yana's new book, &lt;i&gt;Living Beyond Offense: &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Living-Beyond-Offense-Doing-Forgiveness/dp/0736990348/" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.amazon.com/Living-Beyond-Offense-Doing-Forgiveness/dp/0736990348/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Yana: &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/yanajenay/" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.instagram.com/yanajenay/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This Episode is Sponsored By:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://policygenius.com/perry"&gt;https://policygenius.com/perry&lt;/a&gt; — Compare free life insurance quotes from top companies and see how much you could save.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://weekendtoremember.com"&gt;https://weekendtoremember.com&lt;/a&gt; — Get 50% off during FamilyLife’s Black Friday sale!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://brickhousesale.com"&gt;https://brickhousesale.com&lt;/a&gt; — Get 30% off during the Black Friday sale!&lt;/p&gt;
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The Perrys are joined by Yana Conner to discuss the idea that forgiveness is at the heart of our faith, because every time we forgive, we put the gospel on display.

Turning the Cheek and Forgiving Offenses with Yana Conner

Lean into part two of the Perrys’ conversation with Melody and CD Fabien for even more real talk on dating discipleship. They unpack what healthy boundaries look like – whether you’re dating later in life or after a previous marriage – and share why they believe couples should enjoy long dating seasons and short engagements. CD challenges men to consider what true, Christ-like leadership looks like in dating, with the reminder that Scripture calls both husbands and wives to “submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.” The Fabiens also acknowledge that godly dating often involves discernment and sometimes grief-filled obedience, yet they encourage singles that even in those hard moments, peace can be found in the pain.Scripture references: <ul><li>Ephesians 5:21</li><li>1 Thessalonians 4:3-6</li></ul>This Episode is Sponsored by:<a href="https://gominno.com">https://gominno.com</a> — Get your first month FREE when you use code PERRY at sign up. Take advantage of this web-only exclusive offer today!<a href="https://fieldofgreens.com">https://fieldofgreens.com</a> — Get 20% off with code PERRY<a href="https://www.covenanteyes.com/perrys/">https://www.covenanteyes.com/perrys/</a> — Get Victory by Covenant Eyes FREE for 30 days with promo code PERRYSConnect with the Fabiens: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/hangingwiththefabiens/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/hangingwiththefabiens/</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cdfabien/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/cdfabien/</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/melodyfabien/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/melodyfabien/</a> Get Dating & Marriage Coaching with the Fabiens <a href="https://cdandmelody.com/">https://cdandmelody.com</a>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;Lean into part two of the Perrys’ conversation with Melody and CD Fabien for even more real talk on dating discipleship. They unpack what healthy boundaries look like – whether you’re dating later in life or after a previous marriage – and share why they believe couples should enjoy long dating seasons and short engagements. CD challenges men to consider what true, Christ-like leadership looks like in dating, with the reminder that Scripture calls both husbands and wives to “submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.” The Fabiens also acknowledge that godly dating often involves discernment and sometimes grief-filled obedience, yet they encourage singles that even in those hard moments, peace can be found in the pain.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Scripture references: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ephesians 5:21&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;1 Thessalonians 4:3-6&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;This Episode is Sponsored by:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://gominno.com"&gt;https://gominno.com&lt;/a&gt; — Get your first month FREE when you use code PERRY at sign up. Take advantage of this web-only exclusive offer today!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://fieldofgreens.com"&gt;https://fieldofgreens.com&lt;/a&gt; — Get 20% off with code PERRY&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.covenanteyes.com/perrys/"&gt;https://www.covenanteyes.com/perrys/&lt;/a&gt; — Get Victory by Covenant Eyes FREE for 30 days with promo code PERRYS&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with the Fabiens:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/hangingwiththefabiens/" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.instagram.com/hangingwiththefabiens/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/cdfabien/" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.instagram.com/cdfabien/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/melodyfabien/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;https://www.instagram.com/melodyfabien/&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Get Dating &amp; Marriage Coaching with the Fabiens&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="https://cdandmelody.com/"&gt;https://cdandmelody.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Lean into part two of the Perrys’ conversation with Melody and CD Fabien for even more real talk on dating discipleship.

The Grief and Relief of Obedience in Dating

Melody and C.D. Fabien made headlines for waiting to kiss until marriage. Now more than a decade later, they're doing "dating discipleship" work with couples who feel confused about the in between, wanting to date intentionally before getting engaged. In this conversation with the Perrys, the Fabiens discuss what it means to date with godly wisdom, lead with integrity, and pursue purity that lasts beyond the wedding day. Melody and C.D. say that obedience is inconvenient but it's always worth it. They make a case for why living together before marriage is actually spoken against in the Bible, and they offer encouragement around boundaries, conviction, repentance and community. This is just part one of the conversation. Listen in and then come back next week to hear the rest. Scripture references:<ul><li>Ephesians 5:25</li><li>Matthew 5:30</li><li>James 5:16</li><li>Romans 6</li><li>2 Timothy 2:20-21</li></ul>Connect with the Fabiens: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/hangingwiththefabiens/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/hangingwiththefabiens/</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cdfabien/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/cdfabien/</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/melodyfabien/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/melodyfabien/</a> Get Dating & Marriage Coaching with the Fabiens <a href="https://cdandmelody.com/">https://cdandmelody.com</a>This episode of With the Perrys is sponsored by:<a href="https://brooklynbedding.com" target="_blank">https://brooklynbedding.com</a> — Get 30% off sitewide when you use code PERRY at checkout.<a href="https://gominno.com" target="_blank">https://gominno.com</a> — Get your first month FREE when you use code PERRY at sign up. Take advantage of this web-only exclusive offer today!<a href="https://christian-sexuality.com" target="_blank">https://christian-sexuality.com</a> — Get 15% off when you use the promo code Perry at checkout!
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Melody and C.D. Fabien made headlines for waiting to kiss until marriage. Now more than a decade later, they're doing "dating discipleship" work with couples who feel confused about the in between.

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