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Outrage + Optimism

Global Optimism

276. Action On Plastic Pollution with Ellen MacArthur

DEC 5, 202448 MIN
Outrage + Optimism

276. Action On Plastic Pollution with Ellen MacArthur

DEC 5, 202448 MIN

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This week, Christiana, Tom and Paul tackle the latest on the global plastics treaty (known as INC-5), which ended last week without a deal. Why were countries unable to agree a deal despite the huge amount of public concern about plastic pollution? What pathways remain for an agreement in 2025? And why is it so important to maintain focus on plastic from a climate point of view?  Dive into the challenges and explore potential solutions with the team.

Continuing this critical theme, Ellen MacArthur, Founder & Chair of Trustees of the Ellen MacArthur Foundation, world record-breaking sailor and circular economy advocate, joins Christiana to share an exclusive conversation as part of a collaboration between The Circular Economy Show and Outrage + Optimism.   Together they consider what’s next for the global plastics treaty, get excited about the role of the private sector in tackling plastic pollution, and highlight how the visibility of plastics can help capture public attention on climate. Before you go…

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December Mailbag Episode 

We would LOVE to hear your questions for our end of year listener Mailbag episode. Whether it is your questions on our most recent How to Live a Good Life series, questions on the recent COPs or everything and anything in between. Please either: 

  • Send us an email: [email protected] with Climate Questions: December Mailbag in the title.

  • Visit our social media pages and drop the question in the comments. 

  • Alternatively, if you want the chance for your message to be played on the show, record a message for us here

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