<p>SpaceX's $1.75 trillion IPO has just created the world's first trillionaire. But for families in Morgan County, Georgia and Boxtown in South Memphis, the AI investment rush seems to look rather different: brown water, diesel fumes, and higher bills.</p><br><p>This week, Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson take on the data centre boom - now one of the fastest-moving forces in the global energy system. Why exactly do so many of these buildings need to be situated so close to population centres? And why do the communities that end up hosting them so rarely get a meaningful say?</p><br><p>We hear from <a href="https://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/lord-mayor-nicholas-reece" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nick Reece, Lord Mayor of Melbourne</a>, one of the most vocal city leaders addressing the challenge head-on. He explains the costs and the unrealised promises, and shares his vision for what a genuinely good deal between the tech industry and host communities could look like.</p><br><p>What would it take for communities to actually share in the benefits of the AI boom? How do cities avoid a race to the bottom while national governments court the biggest investors? And is the world heading for the same story it has seen before: transformative technology reshaping society, with the legislation catching up 20 years too late?</p><br><p>Learn More:</p><p>πŸŽ₯ Watch Congresswoman <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOQ-vH5fAk8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez present contaminated drinking water</a> from Morgan County, Georgia at a House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing</p><p>πŸ“‹ Read the <a href="https://www.selc.org/news/xai-built-an-illegal-power-plant-to-power-its-data-center/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Southern Environmental Law Center's reporting on xAI's Colossus</a> and how an illegal gas-fired power plant was built in Boxtown</p><p>⚑ Explore the <a href="https://www.iea.org/reports/energy-and-ai/executive-summary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IEA's Energy and AI report</a> for the full data on how global electricity demand from data centres is set to double by 2030</p><p>πŸ™οΈ See the <a href="https://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/media/mayors-melbourne-and-phoenix-call-local-leaders-join-global-initiative" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">City of Melbourne's C40 initiative for responsible data infrastructure</a>, co-led by Lord Mayor Reece alongside mayors from nine other cities worldwide</p><p>πŸ”Œ Understand <a href="https://www.utilitydive.com/news/nerc-issues-rare-level-3-alert-over-data-center-load-losses/819295/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why NERC issued a rare Level 3 alert</a> on the grid stability risks posed by large computational loads that can drop hundreds of megawatts in milliseconds</p><p>πŸŽ™οΈ Listen to the <a href="https://www.volts.wtf/p/why-is-nerc-so-worried-about-data" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Volts podcast episode</a> "Why is NERC so worried about data centers?" for a deep dive into the grid engineering challenges Paul raised in this episode</p><p>🌍 After recording, we remembered there IS a precedent for legislation moving fast enough. Read about <a href="https://www.britannica.com/event/Montreal-Protocol" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Montreal Protocol</a></p><br><p><br></p><p>🎀 Leave us your voice notes and questions for upcoming episodes on <a href="https://www.speakpipe.com/OutrageandOptimism" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SpeakPipe</a></p><br><p>Join the conversation:</p><p>Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/outrageoptimism/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@outrageoptimism</a> LinkedIn <a href="https://uk.linkedin.com/company/outrageoptimism" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@outrageoptimism</a></p><p>Or get in touch with us <a href="https://www.globaloptimism.com/contact?hsLang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">via this form</a>.</p><br><p>Producer: Ben Weaver-Hincks</p><p>Planning: Caitlin Hanrahan&nbsp;</p><p>Exec Producer: Ellie Clifford</p><br><p><em>This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network.</em></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

Persephonica and Global Optimism

From SpaceX to City Streets: Who Pays for the AI Data Centre Boom?

JUN 18, 202648 MIN
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

From SpaceX to City Streets: Who Pays for the AI Data Centre Boom?

JUN 18, 202648 MIN

Description

<p>SpaceX's $1.75 trillion IPO has just created the world's first trillionaire. But for families in Morgan County, Georgia and Boxtown in South Memphis, the AI investment rush seems to look rather different: brown water, diesel fumes, and higher bills.</p><br><p>This week, Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson take on the data centre boom - now one of the fastest-moving forces in the global energy system. Why exactly do so many of these buildings need to be situated so close to population centres? And why do the communities that end up hosting them so rarely get a meaningful say?</p><br><p>We hear from <a href="https://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/lord-mayor-nicholas-reece" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nick Reece, Lord Mayor of Melbourne</a>, one of the most vocal city leaders addressing the challenge head-on. He explains the costs and the unrealised promises, and shares his vision for what a genuinely good deal between the tech industry and host communities could look like.</p><br><p>What would it take for communities to actually share in the benefits of the AI boom? How do cities avoid a race to the bottom while national governments court the biggest investors? And is the world heading for the same story it has seen before: transformative technology reshaping society, with the legislation catching up 20 years too late?</p><br><p>Learn More:</p><p>πŸŽ₯ Watch Congresswoman <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOQ-vH5fAk8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez present contaminated drinking water</a> from Morgan County, Georgia at a House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing</p><p>πŸ“‹ Read the <a href="https://www.selc.org/news/xai-built-an-illegal-power-plant-to-power-its-data-center/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Southern Environmental Law Center's reporting on xAI's Colossus</a> and how an illegal gas-fired power plant was built in Boxtown</p><p>⚑ Explore the <a href="https://www.iea.org/reports/energy-and-ai/executive-summary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IEA's Energy and AI report</a> for the full data on how global electricity demand from data centres is set to double by 2030</p><p>πŸ™οΈ See the <a href="https://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/media/mayors-melbourne-and-phoenix-call-local-leaders-join-global-initiative" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">City of Melbourne's C40 initiative for responsible data infrastructure</a>, co-led by Lord Mayor Reece alongside mayors from nine other cities worldwide</p><p>πŸ”Œ Understand <a href="https://www.utilitydive.com/news/nerc-issues-rare-level-3-alert-over-data-center-load-losses/819295/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">why NERC issued a rare Level 3 alert</a> on the grid stability risks posed by large computational loads that can drop hundreds of megawatts in milliseconds</p><p>πŸŽ™οΈ Listen to the <a href="https://www.volts.wtf/p/why-is-nerc-so-worried-about-data" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Volts podcast episode</a> "Why is NERC so worried about data centers?" for a deep dive into the grid engineering challenges Paul raised in this episode</p><p>🌍 After recording, we remembered there IS a precedent for legislation moving fast enough. Read about <a href="https://www.britannica.com/event/Montreal-Protocol" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Montreal Protocol</a></p><br><p><br></p><p>🎀 Leave us your voice notes and questions for upcoming episodes on <a href="https://www.speakpipe.com/OutrageandOptimism" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SpeakPipe</a></p><br><p>Join the conversation:</p><p>Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/outrageoptimism/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@outrageoptimism</a> LinkedIn <a href="https://uk.linkedin.com/company/outrageoptimism" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@outrageoptimism</a></p><p>Or get in touch with us <a href="https://www.globaloptimism.com/contact?hsLang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">via this form</a>.</p><br><p>Producer: Ben Weaver-Hincks</p><p>Planning: Caitlin Hanrahan&nbsp;</p><p>Exec Producer: Ellie Clifford</p><br><p><em>This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network.</em></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>