We welcome back Dr. Ujju Aggarwal, assistant professor at The New School, to speak about her book, Unsettling Choice: Race, Rights, and the Partitioning of Public Education. In Unsettling Choice, Dr. Aggarwal focuses on the intersection of public education and gentrification. The book is based on her work with mothers at a Head Start center in NYC. We discuss the race and class discrimination the parents faced and whether exclusion is inherent in school choice programs. Overview 00:00-00:56 Intros 00:56-07:13 Working with Head Start mothers in Manhattan’s Community School District 3 07:13-09:15 Connection between school choice and austerity 09:15-19:17 Issues mothers faced in choosing schools for their children and their experiences 19:17-24:06 The “post-Brown realignment” following the Brown v Board of Education Supreme Court decisions 24:06-25:30 Parents as “consumers” rather than as “citizens” 25:30-28:01 Can school choice exist without exclusion 28:01-29:03 NYC Schools Chancellor Samuels and citywide integration 29:03-32:21 Radical municipalism 32:21- OutroTranscriptClick here to listen to see the full transcript of this episode. References Book "Unsettling Choice: Race, Rights, and the Partitioning of Public Education" by Dr. Ujju Aggarwal Listen to our first interview "Ujju Aggarwal on school choice, whiteness as property, and the “right to exclude” published in 2019 Soundtrack by Poddington Bear