<p>Where does New Zealand sit in a new world order that ditches traditional international rules and favours the mighty over the tiny? </p><p><strong><em>There&#x27;s a rupture in the international rules-based order, but that doesn&#x27;t mean New Zealand will be crushed by bigger powers</em></strong></p><p><strong><em>Guest:</em></strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.groser.co.nz/">Tim Groser</a>- former NZ diplomat</li><li><a href="https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/209-front-burner ">Jayme Poisson</a>- Front Burner podcast host</li></ul><p><strong><em>Learn more:</em></strong></p><ul><li>Former National leader Todd Muller&#x27;s view on how New Zealand should react to the <a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360928121/trump-reshaping-world-new-zealands-best-response-keeping-its-head-down-writes-todd-muller">new world order. (Stuff)</a></li><li>Steve Maharey on why New Zealand needs to listen to <a href="https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new-zealand-is-fiddling-while-the-world-ruptures-we-need-to-listen-to-mark-carney-steve-maharey/premium/AWSSPUTLAREQNPHELJFUUHXXNM/">Mark Carney. (NZ Herald)</a></li><li>The Conversation piece by Nicholas Ross Smith on NZ surviving and thriving in Trump&#x27;s new world of <a href="https://theconversation.com/how-nz-can-survive-and-even-thrive-in-trumps-new-world-of-great-power-rivalry-273575">great-power rivalry</a></li><li>Mark Carney&#x27;s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flsgJe8mN-A">World Economic Forum address</a></li></ul><p>Find The Detail on <a href="https://newsroom.co.nz/category/podcasts/podcast-the-detail/">Newsroom</a> or <a href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/thedetail">RNZ</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/podcast/the-detail?share=01760cfa-4bee-418b-9184-68cb51242e0b">Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details</a></p>