Abi is joined by researcher-activist Naomi Lawson Jacobs, co-author of the book At the Gates: Disability, Justice and the Churches. Naomi's research tells the stories of disabled people; the stories behind the shocking statistics. Naomi tells Abi about activism led by disabled people, the challenges that disabled Christians face, who and what we should be valuing and the problem with the idea of "inclusion". At The Gates: Disability, Justice and the Churches shares disabled Christians’ stories in their own words. These storytellers speak back to a church that has more often told their stories for them, calling for justice for all the disabled Christians who have been left waiting at the church gates.Buy At The Gates: Disability, Justice and the Churches here.Buy The Hopeful Activist book here.