<p>In today’s episode, we’re joined by five leading voices shaping the future of artificial intelligence: Dan Palmer, co-founder of Relevance AI; Michelle Gilmore, CEO and co-founder of Juno; Xharmagne Carandang, founding software engineer at Lorikeet; and Georgie Healy, head of Google’s AI accelerator and host of *In the Blink of AI*. Recorded live at the second-ever AI Roundtable Dinner, this conversation dives deep into the most urgent, surreal, and high-stakes issues in AI today. From billion-dollar bets and VC hype cycles, to AI’s impact on jobs, education, and global competition, the guests share candid insights from their own journeys building in one of the most intense moments in tech history. Listen in for a rare behind-the-scenes look at how these founders are navigating ethical dilemmas, rapid product development, market expansion, and staying grounded amid the noise.</p><p><br /></p><p>Check out their socials:</p><p>Daniel Palmer’s: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-palmer/</p><p>Michelle Gilmore’s: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellejoygilmore/</p><p>Xharmagne Carandang’s: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xharmagne/</p><p>Georgie Healy’s: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>We dive into:</p><p>- The reality of the current AI VC bubble and capital efficiency in hyper-competitive markets</p><p>- Why founder expertise, adaptability, and team quality are critical moats in AI</p><p>- How AI could become as ubiquitous as electricity—and what that means for pricing, value, and innovation</p><p>- The skills and mindsets that will thrive (and those that might disappear) in an AI-first world</p><p>- The global race for AI talent and why Sydney, SF, and emerging markets each play a role</p><p>- Displacement vs. amplification: the societal impacts of automation and possible safety nets</p><p>- The hype vs. product debate—how to cut through noise and build enduring companies</p><p>- Storytelling, trust, and the future of marketing in a world where agents make buying decisions</p><p>- The advice these founders would give their future selves about building in AI over the next decade</p><p><br /></p><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>02:37 Round Table Dinner: AI Founders and Leaders</p><p>03:19 The Future of AI and Market Dynamics</p><p>04:53 Challenges and Opportunities in AI Startups</p><p>07:19 The Role of Talent and Capital in AI</p><p>09:54 Global Perspectives on AI Development</p><p>13:50 Notion Ad</p><p>14:36 The Impact of AI on Industries and Society</p><p>28:11 Geographical Dispersion and Talent Density</p><p>37:35 Challenging Company Culture Norms</p><p>38:14 Building Relationships in San Francisco</p><p>39:38 Talent Density and Research in Australia</p><p>41:24 AI's Impact on Skills and Employment</p><p>43:07 The Future of Education and Creativity</p><p>8:43 Job Displacement and Economic Shifts</p><p>01:03:57 Ethical Concerns and AI Governance</p><p>01:14:19 The Importance of Attention in Business</p><p>01:14:46 Investor Expectations and Startup Metrics</p><p>01:15:42 Challenges of Building a Sustainable Business</p><p>01:16:32 Focus on Customers and Incremental Growth</p><p>01:17:23 The Role of Hype and Distribution</p><p>01:21:05 The New Generation of Founders</p><p>01:26:56 The Future of AI and Human Value</p><p>01:37:49 Reflections and Advice for the Future</p><p>01:44:01 Conclusion and Podcast Wrap-Up</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks to Notion for sponsoring this episode! Organise your team, projects, and ideas all in one place. Try Notion for free and get started with our special link: https://ntn.so/sachin&amp;adam</p>