Cédric Durand discusses ecological planning, institutional utopias, and the idea of bifurcation.
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Shownotes
 
Cédric at the University of Geneva (includes a list of his publications):
<a href='https://www.unige.ch/sciences-societe/dehes/membres/cedric-durand'>https://www.unige.ch/sciences-societe/dehes/membres/cedric-durand</a>
 
Cédric’s personal website:
<a href='https://durandcedric.wordpress.com/'>https://durandcedric.wordpress.com/</a>
 
Durand, C. &amp; Keucheyan, R. (2026 forthcoming). Das Prinzip Verzweigung. Über ökologische Planung in Wirtschaft und Gesellschaft. Dietz.
<a href='https://dietzberlin.de/verlagsprogramm-fruehjahr-2026'>https://dietzberlin.de/verlagsprogramm-fruehjahr-2026</a>
 
Durand, C. &amp; Keucheyan, R. (2024). Comment bifurquer. Les principes de la planification écologique. La Découverte.
<a href='https://www.editionsladecouverte.fr/comment_bifurquer-9782355221910'>https://www.editionsladecouverte.fr/comment_bifurquer-9782355221910</a>
 
Durand, C., Hofferberth, E., Schmelzer, M. (2024). Planning Beyond Growth. The Case for Economic Democracy within Ecological Limits. Journal of Cleaner Production, Vol. 437.
<a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959652623045092?via%3Dihub'>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959652623045092?via%3Dihub</a>
 
Durand, C. &amp; Keucheyan, R. (2022). Planning without Political Constraint imposed on Economic Actors is not real Planning. Verso Blog.
<a href='https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/news/5469-planning-without-political-constraint-imposed-on-economic-actors-is-not-real-planning'>https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/news/5469-planning-without-political-constraint-imposed-on-economic-actors-is-not-real-planning</a>
 
on Karl William Kapp:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_William_Kapp'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_William_Kapp</a>
 
on Friedrich Hayek:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hayek'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hayek</a>
 
O’Neill, J. (2002). Socialist Calculation and Environmental Valuation. Money, Markets and Ecology. Science &amp; Society, 66(1).
<a href='http://gesd.free.fr/oneill.pdf'>http://gesd.free.fr/oneill.pdf</a>
 
on La Planification Ècologique in France:
<a href='https://www.info.gouv.fr/grand-dossier/france-nation-verte'>https://www.info.gouv.fr/grand-dossier/france-nation-verte</a>
 
the Secrétariat général à la planification écologique (SGPE):
<a href='https://lannuaire.service-public.gouv.fr/gouvernement/6af2c8c4-bdf7-405c-bd9e-ed48dad83b96'>https://lannuaire.service-public.gouv.fr/gouvernement/6af2c8c4-bdf7-405c-bd9e-ed48dad83b96</a>
 
Viennot, M. (2025). La planification écologique. La Découverte.
<a href='https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/appendix.htm'>https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/appendix.htm</a>
 
Pisani-Ferry, J. &amp; Mahfouz, S. (2023). The Economic Implications of Climate Action. A Repot to the French Prime Minister. France Stratégie.
<a href='https://www.strategie-plan.gouv.fr/en/publications/economic-implications-climate-action'>https://www.strategie-plan.gouv.fr/en/publications/economic-implications-climate-action</a>
 
Wright, E. O. (2010). Envisioning Real Utopias. Verso.
<a href='https://www.versobooks.com/products/2143-envisioning-real-utopias'>https://www.versobooks.com/products/2143-envisioning-real-utopias</a>
 
on the Inflation Reduction Act:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_Reduction_Ac'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_Reduction_Act</a>
 
on the Developmental State concept: 
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developmental_state'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developmental_state</a>
 
Zhou, Z., Ou, J., Li, S. (2016). Ecological Accounting. A Research Review and Conceptual Framework. Journal of Environmental Protection. 7. 643-655.
<a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/301270365_Ecological_Accounting_A_Research_Review_and_Conceptual_Framewor'>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/301270365_Ecological_Accounting_A_Research_Review_and_Conceptual_Framework</a>
 
on Citizen’s Assemblies:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_assembly'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_assembly</a>
 
on Michel Husson:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Husson'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Husson</a>
 
on the Commanding Heights of the Economy concept:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commanding_heights_of_the_economy'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commanding_heights_of_the_economy</a>
 
on the British Wartime Economy during the Second World War:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_home_front_during_World_War_II'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_home_front_during_World_War_II</a>
 
on Economic Planning in France after the Second World War:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_planning_in_France'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_planning_in_France</a>
 
Ali, S. (1969). Economic Planning in France 1945–1965. A Brief Review. The Punjab University Economist, 7(1), 51–69.
<a href='https://www.jstor.org/stable/25821321'>https://www.jstor.org/stable/25821321</a>
 
on Malthusianism:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusianism'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusianism</a>
 
on Degrowth:
<a href='https://degrowth.info'>https://degrowth.info</a>
 
on Jason Hickel:
<a href='http://www.jasonhickel.org'>www.jasonhickel.org</a>
 
on Giorgos Kallis:
<a href='https://www.icrea.cat/community/icreas/17610/giorgos-kallis/'>https://www.icrea.cat/community/icreas/17610/giorgos-kallis/</a>
 
Jackson, T., Hickel, J., Kallis, G. (2024). Confronting the Dilemma of Growth. A Response to Warlenius (2023). Ecological Economics, Vol. 220.
<a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S092180092300352X?via%3Dihub'>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S092180092300352X?via%3Dihub</a>
 
Zeug, W., Heyer, J., Lutosch, H. (2025). Cybernetic Democratic Economic Planning &amp; Holistic Accounting. An Economic Framework to Achieve Sustainable Societal Metabolisms.
<a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/393790658_Cybernetic_Democratic_Economic_Planning_Holistic_Accounting_-_An_Economic_Framework_to_Achieve_Sustainable_Societal_Metabolisms'>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/393790658_Cybernetic_Democratic_Economic_Planning_Holistic_Accounting_-_An_Economic_Framework_to_Achieve_Sustainable_Societal_Metabolisms</a>
 
on the Holistic and Integrated Life Cycle Sustainability Assessment (HILCSA):
<a href='https://www.ufz.de/index.php?en=50083'>https://www.ufz.de/index.php?en=50083</a>
 
on Ecosystem Services:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecosystem_service'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecosystem_service</a>
 
O’Neill, D.W., Fanning, A.L., Lamb, W.F. et al. (2018). A Good Life for All Within Planetary Boundaries. Nature Sustainability 1, 88–95.
<a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-018-0021-4'>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-018-0021-4</a>
 
Fehér, F., Heller, A., Márkus, G. (1983). Dictatorship Over Needs. Blackwell.
<a href='https://archive.org/details/dictatorshipover0000fehe/page/n5/mode/2up'>https://archive.org/details/dictatorshipover0000fehe/page/n5/mode/2up</a>
 
Keucheyan, R. (2024). Ágnes Heller’s Theory of Need Is a Vital Political Tool. Jacobin.
<a href='https://jacobin.com/2024/12/agnes-heller-philosophy-marxism-needs'>https://jacobin.com/2024/12/agnes-heller-philosophy-marxism-needs</a>
 
on Planetary Boundaries:
<a href='https://www.stockholmresilience.org/research/planetary-boundaries.html'>https://www.stockholmresilience.org/research/planetary-boundaries.html</a>
 
on Wassily Leontief:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassily_Leontief'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassily_Leontief</a>
 
on the Input-Output Model in Economics:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input%E2%80%93output_model'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input%E2%80%93output_model</a>
 
on the Berlin Housing Campaign for Socializing Housing owned by Big Real Estate Companies:
<a href='https://dwenteignen.de/en'>https://dwenteignen.de/en</a>
 
on Socialization in the Energy Sector:
<a href='https://communia.de/en/energy-power-transformation/'>https://communia.de/en/energy-power-transformation/</a>
 
on the New International Economic Order (NIEO):
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_International_Economic_Order'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_International_Economic_Order</a>
 
on the Banque de France:
<a href='https://www.banque-france.fr/en'>https://www.banque-france.fr/en</a>
 
on the French National Institute of Statistics and Economic Studies (INSEE):
<a href='https://www.insee.fr/en/information/2107702'>https://www.insee.fr/en/information/2107702</a>
 
on the Direction Générale des Entreprises:
<a href='https://www.entreprises.gouv.fr/'>https://www.entreprises.gouv.fr/</a>
 
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Democratic planning – an information website:
<a href='https://www.democratic-planning.com/'>https://www.democratic-planning.com/</a>
 
Sorg, C. &amp; Groos, J. (eds.)(2025). Rethinking Economic Planning. Competition &amp; Change Special Issue Volume 29 Issue 1.
<a href='https://journals.sagepub.com/toc/ccha/29/1'>https://journals.sagepub.com/toc/ccha/29/1</a>
 
Groos, J. &amp; Sorg, C. (2025). Creative Construction - Democratic Planning in the 21st Century and Beyond. Bristol University Press. [for a review copy, please contact: amber.lanfranchi[at]bristol.ac.uk]
<a href='https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-construction'>https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-construction</a>
 
International Network for Democratic Economic Planning
<a href='https://www.indep.network/'>https://www.indep.network/</a>
 
Democratic Planning Research Platform:
<a href='https://www.planningresearch.net/'>https://www.planningresearch.net/</a>
 
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<description>&lt;p&gt;Cédric Durand discusses ecological planning, institutional utopias, and the idea of bifurcation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Find the feed of English episodes only here: &lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories-international.com/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories-international.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
Shownotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Cédric at the University of Geneva (includes a list of his publications):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.unige.ch/sciences-societe/dehes/membres/cedric-durand'&gt;https://www.unige.ch/sciences-societe/dehes/membres/cedric-durand&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Cédric’s personal website:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://durandcedric.wordpress.com/'&gt;https://durandcedric.wordpress.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Durand, C. &amp;amp; Keucheyan, R. (2026 forthcoming). Das Prinzip Verzweigung. Über ökologische Planung in Wirtschaft und Gesellschaft. Dietz.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://dietzberlin.de/verlagsprogramm-fruehjahr-2026'&gt;https://dietzberlin.de/verlagsprogramm-fruehjahr-2026&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Durand, C. &amp;amp; Keucheyan, R. (2024). Comment bifurquer. Les principes de la planification écologique. La Découverte.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.editionsladecouverte.fr/comment_bifurquer-9782355221910'&gt;https://www.editionsladecouverte.fr/comment_bifurquer-9782355221910&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Durand, C., Hofferberth, E., Schmelzer, M. (2024). Planning Beyond Growth. The Case for Economic Democracy within Ecological Limits. Journal of Cleaner Production, Vol. 437.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959652623045092?via%3Dihub'&gt;https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959652623045092?via%3Dihub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Durand, C. &amp;amp; Keucheyan, R. (2022). Planning without Political Constraint imposed on Economic Actors is not real Planning. Verso Blog.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/news/5469-planning-without-political-constraint-imposed-on-economic-actors-is-not-real-planning'&gt;https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/news/5469-planning-without-political-constraint-imposed-on-economic-actors-is-not-real-planning&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Karl William Kapp:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_William_Kapp'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_William_Kapp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Friedrich Hayek:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hayek'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hayek&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
O’Neill, J. (2002). Socialist Calculation and Environmental Valuation. Money, Markets and Ecology. Science &amp;amp; Society, 66(1).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='http://gesd.free.fr/oneill.pdf'&gt;http://gesd.free.fr/oneill.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on La Planification Ècologique in France:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.info.gouv.fr/grand-dossier/france-nation-verte'&gt;https://www.info.gouv.fr/grand-dossier/france-nation-verte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
the Secrétariat général à la planification écologique (SGPE):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://lannuaire.service-public.gouv.fr/gouvernement/6af2c8c4-bdf7-405c-bd9e-ed48dad83b96'&gt;https://lannuaire.service-public.gouv.fr/gouvernement/6af2c8c4-bdf7-405c-bd9e-ed48dad83b96&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Viennot, M. (2025). La planification écologique. La Découverte.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/appendix.htm'&gt;https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/appendix.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Pisani-Ferry, J. &amp;amp; Mahfouz, S. (2023). The Economic Implications of Climate Action. A Repot to the French Prime Minister. France Stratégie.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.strategie-plan.gouv.fr/en/publications/economic-implications-climate-action'&gt;https://www.strategie-plan.gouv.fr/en/publications/economic-implications-climate-action&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Wright, E. O. (2010). Envisioning Real Utopias. Verso.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.versobooks.com/products/2143-envisioning-real-utopias'&gt;https://www.versobooks.com/products/2143-envisioning-real-utopias&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the Inflation Reduction Act:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_Reduction_Ac'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_Reduction_Act&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the Developmental State concept: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developmental_state'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developmental_state&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Zhou, Z., Ou, J., Li, S. (2016). Ecological Accounting. A Research Review and Conceptual Framework. Journal of Environmental Protection. 7. 643-655.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/301270365_Ecological_Accounting_A_Research_Review_and_Conceptual_Framewor'&gt;https://www.researchgate.net/publication/301270365_Ecological_Accounting_A_Research_Review_and_Conceptual_Framework&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Citizen’s Assemblies:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_assembly'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_assembly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Michel Husson:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Husson'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Husson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the Commanding Heights of the Economy concept:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commanding_heights_of_the_economy'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commanding_heights_of_the_economy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the British Wartime Economy during the Second World War:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_home_front_during_World_War_II'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_home_front_during_World_War_II&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Economic Planning in France after the Second World War:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_planning_in_France'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_planning_in_France&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Ali, S. (1969). Economic Planning in France 1945–1965. A Brief Review. The Punjab University Economist, 7(1), 51–69.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.jstor.org/stable/25821321'&gt;https://www.jstor.org/stable/25821321&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Malthusianism:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusianism'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusianism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Degrowth:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://degrowth.info'&gt;https://degrowth.info&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Jason Hickel:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='http://www.jasonhickel.org'&gt;www.jasonhickel.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Giorgos Kallis:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.icrea.cat/community/icreas/17610/giorgos-kallis/'&gt;https://www.icrea.cat/community/icreas/17610/giorgos-kallis/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Jackson, T., Hickel, J., Kallis, G. (2024). Confronting the Dilemma of Growth. A Response to Warlenius (2023). Ecological Economics, Vol. 220.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S092180092300352X?via%3Dihub'&gt;https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S092180092300352X?via%3Dihub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Zeug, W., Heyer, J., Lutosch, H. (2025). Cybernetic Democratic Economic Planning &amp;amp; Holistic Accounting. An Economic Framework to Achieve Sustainable Societal Metabolisms.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/393790658_Cybernetic_Democratic_Economic_Planning_Holistic_Accounting_-_An_Economic_Framework_to_Achieve_Sustainable_Societal_Metabolisms'&gt;https://www.researchgate.net/publication/393790658_Cybernetic_Democratic_Economic_Planning_Holistic_Accounting_-_An_Economic_Framework_to_Achieve_Sustainable_Societal_Metabolisms&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the Holistic and Integrated Life Cycle Sustainability Assessment (HILCSA):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.ufz.de/index.php?en=50083'&gt;https://www.ufz.de/index.php?en=50083&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Ecosystem Services:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecosystem_service'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecosystem_service&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
O’Neill, D.W., Fanning, A.L., Lamb, W.F. et al. (2018). A Good Life for All Within Planetary Boundaries. Nature Sustainability 1, 88–95.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-018-0021-4'&gt;https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-018-0021-4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Fehér, F., Heller, A., Márkus, G. (1983). Dictatorship Over Needs. Blackwell.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://archive.org/details/dictatorshipover0000fehe/page/n5/mode/2up'&gt;https://archive.org/details/dictatorshipover0000fehe/page/n5/mode/2up&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Keucheyan, R. (2024). Ágnes Heller’s Theory of Need Is a Vital Political Tool. Jacobin.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://jacobin.com/2024/12/agnes-heller-philosophy-marxism-needs'&gt;https://jacobin.com/2024/12/agnes-heller-philosophy-marxism-needs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Planetary Boundaries:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.stockholmresilience.org/research/planetary-boundaries.html'&gt;https://www.stockholmresilience.org/research/planetary-boundaries.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Wassily Leontief:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassily_Leontief'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassily_Leontief&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the Input-Output Model in Economics:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input%E2%80%93output_model'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input%E2%80%93output_model&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the Berlin Housing Campaign for Socializing Housing owned by Big Real Estate Companies:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://dwenteignen.de/en'&gt;https://dwenteignen.de/en&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Socialization in the Energy Sector:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://communia.de/en/energy-power-transformation/'&gt;https://communia.de/en/energy-power-transformation/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the New International Economic Order (NIEO):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_International_Economic_Order'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_International_Economic_Order&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the Banque de France:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.banque-france.fr/en'&gt;https://www.banque-france.fr/en&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the French National Institute of Statistics and Economic Studies (INSEE):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.insee.fr/en/information/2107702'&gt;https://www.insee.fr/en/information/2107702&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the Direction Générale des Entreprises:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.entreprises.gouv.fr/'&gt;https://www.entreprises.gouv.fr/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Future Histories Episodes on Related Topics&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
S3E55 | Kim Stanley Robinson on Real Utopian Futures&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e55-kim-stanley-robinson-on-real-utopian-futures'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e55-kim-stanley-robinson-on-real-utopian-futures&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
S03E54 | Rabea Berfelde on Socialisation&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e54-rabea-berfelde-on-socialisation/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e54-rabea-berfelde-on-socialisation/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
S03E30 | Matt Huber &amp;amp; Kohei Saito on Growth, Progress and Left Imaginaries&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e30-matt-huber-kohei-saito-on-growth-progress-and-left-imaginaries/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e30-matt-huber-kohei-saito-on-growth-progress-and-left-imaginaries/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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S02E24 | Grace Blakeley on Capitalist Planning and its Alternatives&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e24-grace-blakeley-on-capitalist-planning-and-its-alternatives/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e24-grace-blakeley-on-capitalist-planning-and-its-alternatives/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
S03E21 | Christoph Sorg zu Finanzwirtschaft als Planung&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e21-christoph-sorg-zu-finanzwirtschaft-als-planung/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e21-christoph-sorg-zu-finanzwirtschaft-als-planung/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
S03E03 | Planning for Entropy on Sociometabolic Planning&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e03-planning-for-entropy-on-sociometabolic-planning/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e03-planning-for-entropy-on-sociometabolic-planning/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
S03E02 | George Monbiot on Public Luxury&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e02-george-monbiot-on-public-luxury/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e02-george-monbiot-on-public-luxury/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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If you are interested in democratic economic planning, these resources might be of help:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Democratic planning – an information website:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.democratic-planning.com/'&gt;https://www.democratic-planning.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Sorg, C. &amp;amp; Groos, J. (eds.)(2025). Rethinking Economic Planning. Competition &amp;amp; Change Special Issue Volume 29 Issue 1.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://journals.sagepub.com/toc/ccha/29/1'&gt;https://journals.sagepub.com/toc/ccha/29/1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Groos, J. &amp;amp; Sorg, C. (2025). Creative Construction - Democratic Planning in the 21st Century and Beyond. Bristol University Press. [for a review copy, please contact: amber.lanfranchi[at]bristol.ac.uk]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-construction'&gt;https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-construction&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
International Network for Democratic Economic Planning&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.indep.network/'&gt;https://www.indep.network/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Democratic Planning Research Platform:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.planningresearch.net/'&gt;https://www.planningresearch.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
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Contact: &lt;a href='mailto:office@futurehistories.today'&gt;office@futurehistories.today&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Episode Keywords&lt;/p&gt;
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Cédric Durand discusses ecological planning, institutional utopias, and the idea of bifurcation.

S03E59 - Cédric Durand on Ecological Planning

Anna-Verena Nosthoff zu Kybernetik und Kritik, digitaler Regierungskunst und der Rolle der Plattformen.
 
Future Histories LIVE
Das Gespräch mit Anna-Verena Nosthoff ist Teil des Formats ‚Future Histories LIVE‘. In unregelmäßigen Abständen werden hierbei einzelne Episoden live – soll heißen vor Publikum – aufgezeichnet. Diese Folge Future Histories ist am 26. Januar 2026 in Zusammenarbeit des Future Histories Lab mit dem Critical Data Lab entstanden und wurde im Medientheater an der Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin aufgenommen. 
 
Shownotes
 
Anna-Verena Nosthoff an der Carl von Ossietzky Universität Oldenburg (inkl. Publikationsliste):
<a href='https://uol.de/philosophie/mitarbeiterinnen/prof-dr-anna-verena-nosthoff'>https://uol.de/philosophie/mitarbeiterinnen/prof-dr-anna-verena-nosthoff</a>
 
das Critical Data Lab: 
<a href='https://www.criticaldatalab.org/anna-verena-nosthoff'>https://www.criticaldatalab.org/anna-verena-nosthoff</a>
 
Nosthoff, A-V. (2026). Kybernetik und Kritik: Eine Theorie digitaler Regierungkunst. Suhrkamp. 
<a href='https://www.suhrkamp.de/buch/anna-verena-nosthoff-kybernetik-und-kritik-t-9783518300794'>https://www.suhrkamp.de/buch/anna-verena-nosthoff-kybernetik-und-kritik-t-9783518300794</a>
 
Nosthoff, Anna-Verena und Felix Maschewski. 2019. Die Gesellschaft der Wearables. Berlin: Nicolai Publishung:
<a href='https://nicolai-publishing.com/products/die-gesellschaft-der-wearables'>https://nicolai-publishing.com/products/die-gesellschaft-der-wearables</a>
 
zu Shintaro Myazaki:
<a href='https://medienwissenschaft-berlin.org/prof-dr-shintaro-miyazaki/'>https://medienwissenschaft-berlin.org/prof-dr-shintaro-miyazaki/</a>
 
Foucault, M. (1977-1979 [2006]). Geschichte der Gouvernementalität - Band I und II. Suhrkamp.
<a href='https://www.suhrkamp.de/buch/michel-foucault-geschichte-der-gouvernementalitaet-t-9783518068441'>https://www.suhrkamp.de/buch/michel-foucault-geschichte-der-gouvernementalitaet-t-9783518068441</a>
 
zu Erich Hörl: 
<a href='https://www.leuphana.de/institute/icam/personen/erich-hoerl.html'>https://www.leuphana.de/institute/icam/personen/erich-hoerl.html</a> 
 
 
zu Claus Pias: 
<a href='https://www.diaphanes.net/titel/zeit-der-kybernetik-eine-einstimmung-385'>https://www.diaphanes.net/titel/zeit-der-kybernetik-eine-einstimmung-385</a> 
 
 
zu Benjamin Seibel: 
<a href='https://citylab-berlin.org/de/benjamin-seibel/'>https://citylab-berlin.org/de/benjamin-seibel/</a>
 
Seibel, B. (2016). Cybernetic Government: Informationstechnologie und Regierungsrationalität von 1943-1970. Springer-Verlag.
<a href='https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-658-12490-8'>https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-658-12490-8</a>
 
zu Norbert Wiener:
<a href='https://monoskop.org/Norbert_Wiener'>https://monoskop.org/Norbert_Wiener</a>
 
Wiener, N. (1948 [1985]). Cybernetics or control and communication in the animal and the machine. The M.I.T. Press.
<a href='https://ia801003.us.archive.org/9/items/cybernetics-or-communication-and-control-in-the-animal-and-the-machine-norbert-wiene-ocr/Cybernetics%20or%20Communication%20and%20Control%20in%20the%20Animal%20and%20the%20Machine%20-%20Norbert%20Wiene_OCR.pdf'>https://ia801003.us.archive.org/9/items/cybernetics-or-communication-and-control-in-the-animal-and-the-machine-norbert-wiene-ocr/Cybernetics%20or%20Communication%20and%20Control%20in%20the%20Animal%20and%20the%20Machine%20-%20Norbert%20Wiene_OCR.pdf</a>
 
Zuboff, S. (2018). Das Zeitalter des Überwachungskapitalismus. campus. 
<a href='https://www.campus.de/buecher-campus-verlag/wirtschaft-gesellschaft/wirtschaft/das_zeitalter_des_ueberwachungskapitalismus-15097.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqyy_ijK9Oex1CtRyQZwmE3BdQ30H2b_yc3-PlNDSxqwbXecaDb'>https://www.campus.de/buecher-campus-verlag/wirtschaft-gesellschaft/wirtschaft/das_zeitalter_des_ueberwachungskapitalismus-15097.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqyy_ijK9Oex1CtRyQZwmE3BdQ30H2b_yc3-PlNDSxqwbXecaDb</a>
 
Lyotard, J-F. (1974 [1984]). Libidinöse Ökonomie. Diaphenes.  
<a href='https://www.diaphanes.de/titel/libidinoese-oekonomie-109'>https://www.diaphanes.de/titel/libidinoese-oekonomie-109</a>
 
zu Claude Shannon: 
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Shannon'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Shannon</a>
 
Shannon, C. E. &amp; Weaver, W. (1964). The mathematical theory of communication. University of Illinois Press. 
<a href='https://monoskop.org/images/b/be/Shannon_Claude_E_Weaver_Warren_The_Mathematical_Theory_of_Communication_1963.pdf'>https://monoskop.org/images/b/be/Shannon_Claude_E_Weaver_Warren_The_Mathematical_Theory_of_Communication_1963.pdf</a>
 
Deutsch, K. W. (1969). Politische Kybernetik: Modelle und Perspektiven. Rombach Verlag.
<a href='https://d-nb.info/456333991/04'>https://d-nb.info/456333991/04</a>
 
zum Homeostat von William Ross Ashby:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeostat'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeostat</a>
 
zum Zitat von Steve Bannon ‘flood the zone with shit’: 
<a href='https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/flood-the-zone-warum-trumps-flut-an-dekreten-und-provokationen-methode-hat-100.html'>https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/flood-the-zone-warum-trumps-flut-an-dekreten-und-provokationen-methode-hat-100.html</a>
 
zu Palantir:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies</a>
 
zu Jürgen Habermas:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Habermas'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Habermas</a> 
 
zu Mastodon:
<a href='https://mastodon.world/explore'>https://mastodon.world/explore</a>
 
zu Eric Schmidt:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Schmidt'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Schmidt</a>
 
Robins, K., &amp; Webster, F. (1988). Cybernetic capitalism: Information, technology, everyday life. In V. Mosco &amp; J. Wasko (eds.). The political economy of information. University of Wisconsin Press.
<a href='https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kevin-Robins-2/publication/282816878_cybernetic_capitalism_Information_technology_everyday_life/links/561d36c708aecade1acb365e/cybernetic-capitalism-Information-technology-everyday-life.pdf'>https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kevin-Robins-2/publication/282816878_cybernetic_capitalism_Information_technology_everyday_life/links/561d36c708aecade1acb365e/cybernetic-capitalism-Information-technology-everyday-life.pdf</a>
 
Baudrillard, J. (1983). Der symbolische Tausch und der Tod. Matthes &amp; Seitz Berlin.
<a href='https://www.matthes-seitz-berlin.de/buch/der-symbolische-tausch-und-der-tod.html'>https://www.matthes-seitz-berlin.de/buch/der-symbolische-tausch-und-der-tod.html</a>
 
zu Gilles Deleuze: 
<a href='https://brill.com/display/title/39900?language=de&amp;srsltid=AfmBOoonpAe9aAERETg25wTxqOH2oWqf-8nHgpMSxX_iLoArUS_V3l8u'>https://brill.com/display/title/39900?language=de&amp;srsltid=AfmBOoonpAe9aAERETg25wTxqOH2oWqf-8nHgpMSxX_iLoArUS_V3l8u</a>
 
zu Jaques Derrida: 
<a href='https://monoskop.org/Jacques_Derrida'>https://monoskop.org/Jacques_Derrida</a>
 
zu Stafford Beer:
<a href='https://monoskop.org/Stafford_Beer'>https://monoskop.org/Stafford_Beer</a>
 
zum erwähnten Projekt ‘Cybersyn’ in Chile:
<a href='https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/project-cybersyn-chiles-radical-experiment-in-cybernetic-socialism/'>https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/project-cybersyn-chiles-radical-experiment-in-cybernetic-socialism/</a> 
 
zum erwähnten ‘Laboria Cuboniks’-Kollektiv: 
<a href='https://monoskop.org/Laboria_Cuboniks'>https://monoskop.org/Laboria_Cuboniks</a>
 
Gebru, T., &amp; Torres, Émile P. (2024). The TESCREAL bundle: Eugenics and the promise of utopia through artificial general intelligence. First Monday, 29(4). 
<a href='https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636'>https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636</a>
 
zu Stewart Brand:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Brand'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Brand</a>
 
zu Slava Gerovitch:
<a href='https://web.mit.edu/slava/homepage/gerovitch-cv.html'>https://web.mit.edu/slava/homepage/gerovitch-cv.html</a>
 
Klaus, G. (1973). Kybernetik – eine neue Universalwissenschaft der Gesellschaft? Akademie-Verlag Berlin. 
<a href='http://www.max-stirner-archiv-leipzig.de/dokumente/KlausKybernetik.pdf'>http://www.max-stirner-archiv-leipzig.de/dokumente/KlausKybernetik.pdf</a> 
 
zum Gesetz über digitale Dienste (DSA):
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesetz_%C3%BCber_digitale_Dienste'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesetz_%C3%BCber_digitale_Dienste</a> 
 
zu Salome Viljoen:
<a href='https://www.salomeviljoen.com/'>https://www.salomeviljoen.com/</a> 
 
Virilio, P. (2009). Der integrale Unfall. transcript. 
<a href='https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783839407219-001/pdf?licenseType=restricted&amp;srsltid=AfmBOopKQ_tu9OPZ4VAcVzfGybsk3gwqub83XcQ-QYyJxxNWAmnlWU-c'>https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783839407219-001/pdf?licenseType=restricted&amp;srsltid=AfmBOopKQ_tu9OPZ4VAcVzfGybsk3gwqub83XcQ-QYyJxxNWAmnlWU-c</a> 
 
Pentland, A. (2014). Social physics: how good ideas spread-the lessons from a new science. Penguin.
<a href='https://books.google.at/books/about/Social_Physics.html?id=KAL5AgAAQBAJ&amp;redir_esc=y'>https://books.google.at/books/about/Social_Physics.html?id=KAL5AgAAQBAJ&amp;redir_esc=y</a> 
 
Pentland, A. (2014a). Social physics: How social networks can make us smarter. Penguin.
<a href='https://archive.org/details/socialphysicshow0000pent'>https://archive.org/details/socialphysicshow0000pent</a>
 
zu Felix Maschewski:
<a href='https://www.criticaldatalab.org/felix-maschewski'>https://www.criticaldatalab.org/felix-maschewski</a>
 
Thematisch angrenzende Folgen
 
S03E40 | Jan Overwijk on Cybernetic Capitalism and Critical Systems Theory 
<a href='https://futurehistories-international.com/episodes/s03/e40-jan-overwijk-on-cybernetic-capitalism-and-critical-systems-theory/'>https://futurehistories-international.com/episodes/s03/e40-jan-overwijk-on-cybernetic-capitalism-and-critical-systems-theory/</a>
 
S03E28 | Silke van Dyk zu alternativer Gouvernementalität
<a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e28-silke-van-dyk-zu-alternativer-gouvernementalitaet/'>https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e28-silke-van-dyk-zu-alternativer-gouvernementalitaet/</a>
 
S02E31 | Thomas Swann on Anarchist Cybernetics 
<a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e31-thomas-swann-on-anarchist-cybernetics/'>https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e31-thomas-swann-on-anarchist-cybernetics/</a>
 
S01E22 | Anna-Verena Nosthoff und Felix Maschewski zu digitaler Verführung, sozialer Kontrolle und der Gesellschaft der Wearables
<a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e22-anna-verena-nosthoff-und-felix-maschewski-zu-digitaler-verfuehrung-sozialer-kontrolle-und-der-gesellschaft-der-wearables/'>https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e22-anna-verena-nosthoff-und-felix-maschewski-zu-digitaler-verfuehrung-sozialer-kontrolle-und-der-gesellschaft-der-wearables/</a>
 
S01E18 | Simon Schaupp zu Kybernetik und radikaler Demokratie 
<a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e18-simon-schaupp-zu-kybernetik-und-radikaler-demokratie/'>https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e18-simon-schaupp-zu-kybernetik-und-radikaler-demokratie/</a>
 
S01E01 | Benjamin Seibel zu Kybernetik 
<a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e01-benjamin-seibel-zu-kybernetik/'>https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e01-benjamin-seibel-zu-kybernetik/</a>
 
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<description>&lt;p&gt;Anna-Verena Nosthoff zu Kybernetik und Kritik, digitaler Regierungskunst und der Rolle der Plattformen.&lt;/p&gt;
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Future Histories LIVE&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Das Gespräch mit Anna-Verena Nosthoff ist Teil des Formats ‚Future Histories LIVE‘. In unregelmäßigen Abständen werden hierbei einzelne Episoden live – soll heißen vor Publikum – aufgezeichnet. Diese Folge Future Histories ist am 26. Januar 2026 in Zusammenarbeit des Future Histories Lab mit dem Critical Data Lab entstanden und wurde im Medientheater an der Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin aufgenommen. &lt;/p&gt;
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Shownotes&lt;/p&gt;
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Anna-Verena Nosthoff an der Carl von Ossietzky Universität Oldenburg (inkl. Publikationsliste):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://uol.de/philosophie/mitarbeiterinnen/prof-dr-anna-verena-nosthoff'&gt;https://uol.de/philosophie/mitarbeiterinnen/prof-dr-anna-verena-nosthoff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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das Critical Data Lab: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.criticaldatalab.org/anna-verena-nosthoff'&gt;https://www.criticaldatalab.org/anna-verena-nosthoff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Nosthoff, A-V. (2026). Kybernetik und Kritik: Eine Theorie digitaler Regierungkunst. Suhrkamp. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.suhrkamp.de/buch/anna-verena-nosthoff-kybernetik-und-kritik-t-9783518300794'&gt;https://www.suhrkamp.de/buch/anna-verena-nosthoff-kybernetik-und-kritik-t-9783518300794&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Nosthoff, Anna-Verena und Felix Maschewski. 2019. Die Gesellschaft der Wearables. Berlin: Nicolai Publishung:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://nicolai-publishing.com/products/die-gesellschaft-der-wearables'&gt;https://nicolai-publishing.com/products/die-gesellschaft-der-wearables&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zu Shintaro Myazaki:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://medienwissenschaft-berlin.org/prof-dr-shintaro-miyazaki/'&gt;https://medienwissenschaft-berlin.org/prof-dr-shintaro-miyazaki/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Foucault, M. (1977-1979 [2006]). Geschichte der Gouvernementalität - Band I und II. Suhrkamp.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.suhrkamp.de/buch/michel-foucault-geschichte-der-gouvernementalitaet-t-9783518068441'&gt;https://www.suhrkamp.de/buch/michel-foucault-geschichte-der-gouvernementalitaet-t-9783518068441&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zu Erich Hörl: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.leuphana.de/institute/icam/personen/erich-hoerl.html'&gt;https://www.leuphana.de/institute/icam/personen/erich-hoerl.html&lt;/a&gt;


zu Claus Pias: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.diaphanes.net/titel/zeit-der-kybernetik-eine-einstimmung-385'&gt;https://www.diaphanes.net/titel/zeit-der-kybernetik-eine-einstimmung-385&lt;/a&gt;


zu Benjamin Seibel: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://citylab-berlin.org/de/benjamin-seibel/'&gt;https://citylab-berlin.org/de/benjamin-seibel/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Seibel, B. (2016). Cybernetic Government: Informationstechnologie und Regierungsrationalität von 1943-1970. Springer-Verlag.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-658-12490-8'&gt;https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-658-12490-8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zu Norbert Wiener:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://monoskop.org/Norbert_Wiener'&gt;https://monoskop.org/Norbert_Wiener&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Wiener, N. (1948 [1985]). Cybernetics or control and communication in the animal and the machine. The M.I.T. Press.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://ia801003.us.archive.org/9/items/cybernetics-or-communication-and-control-in-the-animal-and-the-machine-norbert-wiene-ocr/Cybernetics%20or%20Communication%20and%20Control%20in%20the%20Animal%20and%20the%20Machine%20-%20Norbert%20Wiene_OCR.pdf'&gt;https://ia801003.us.archive.org/9/items/cybernetics-or-communication-and-control-in-the-animal-and-the-machine-norbert-wiene-ocr/Cybernetics%20or%20Communication%20and%20Control%20in%20the%20Animal%20and%20the%20Machine%20-%20Norbert%20Wiene_OCR.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Zuboff, S. (2018). Das Zeitalter des Überwachungskapitalismus. campus. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.campus.de/buecher-campus-verlag/wirtschaft-gesellschaft/wirtschaft/das_zeitalter_des_ueberwachungskapitalismus-15097.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqyy_ijK9Oex1CtRyQZwmE3BdQ30H2b_yc3-PlNDSxqwbXecaDb'&gt;https://www.campus.de/buecher-campus-verlag/wirtschaft-gesellschaft/wirtschaft/das_zeitalter_des_ueberwachungskapitalismus-15097.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqyy_ijK9Oex1CtRyQZwmE3BdQ30H2b_yc3-PlNDSxqwbXecaDb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Lyotard, J-F. (1974 [1984]). Libidinöse Ökonomie. Diaphenes.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.diaphanes.de/titel/libidinoese-oekonomie-109'&gt;https://www.diaphanes.de/titel/libidinoese-oekonomie-109&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zu Claude Shannon: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Shannon'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Shannon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Shannon, C. E. &amp;amp; Weaver, W. (1964). The mathematical theory of communication. University of Illinois Press. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://monoskop.org/images/b/be/Shannon_Claude_E_Weaver_Warren_The_Mathematical_Theory_of_Communication_1963.pdf'&gt;https://monoskop.org/images/b/be/Shannon_Claude_E_Weaver_Warren_The_Mathematical_Theory_of_Communication_1963.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Deutsch, K. W. (1969). Politische Kybernetik: Modelle und Perspektiven. Rombach Verlag.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://d-nb.info/456333991/04'&gt;https://d-nb.info/456333991/04&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zum Homeostat von William Ross Ashby:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeostat'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeostat&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zum Zitat von Steve Bannon ‘flood the zone with shit’: 
&lt;a href='https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/flood-the-zone-warum-trumps-flut-an-dekreten-und-provokationen-methode-hat-100.html'&gt;https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/flood-the-zone-warum-trumps-flut-an-dekreten-und-provokationen-methode-hat-100.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zu Palantir:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zu Jürgen Habermas:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Habermas'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Habermas&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
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zu Mastodon:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://mastodon.world/explore'&gt;https://mastodon.world/explore&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zu Eric Schmidt:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Schmidt'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Schmidt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Robins, K., &amp;amp; Webster, F. (1988). Cybernetic capitalism: Information, technology, everyday life. In V. Mosco &amp;amp; J. Wasko (eds.). The political economy of information. University of Wisconsin Press.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kevin-Robins-2/publication/282816878_cybernetic_capitalism_Information_technology_everyday_life/links/561d36c708aecade1acb365e/cybernetic-capitalism-Information-technology-everyday-life.pdf'&gt;https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kevin-Robins-2/publication/282816878_cybernetic_capitalism_Information_technology_everyday_life/links/561d36c708aecade1acb365e/cybernetic-capitalism-Information-technology-everyday-life.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Baudrillard, J. (1983). Der symbolische Tausch und der Tod. Matthes &amp;amp; Seitz Berlin.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.matthes-seitz-berlin.de/buch/der-symbolische-tausch-und-der-tod.html'&gt;https://www.matthes-seitz-berlin.de/buch/der-symbolische-tausch-und-der-tod.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zu Gilles Deleuze: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://brill.com/display/title/39900?language=de&amp;amp;srsltid=AfmBOoonpAe9aAERETg25wTxqOH2oWqf-8nHgpMSxX_iLoArUS_V3l8u'&gt;https://brill.com/display/title/39900?language=de&amp;amp;srsltid=AfmBOoonpAe9aAERETg25wTxqOH2oWqf-8nHgpMSxX_iLoArUS_V3l8u&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zu Jaques Derrida: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://monoskop.org/Jacques_Derrida'&gt;https://monoskop.org/Jacques_Derrida&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zu Stafford Beer:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://monoskop.org/Stafford_Beer'&gt;https://monoskop.org/Stafford_Beer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zum erwähnten Projekt ‘Cybersyn’ in Chile:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/project-cybersyn-chiles-radical-experiment-in-cybernetic-socialism/'&gt;https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/project-cybersyn-chiles-radical-experiment-in-cybernetic-socialism/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
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zum erwähnten ‘Laboria Cuboniks’-Kollektiv: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://monoskop.org/Laboria_Cuboniks'&gt;https://monoskop.org/Laboria_Cuboniks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Gebru, T., &amp;amp; Torres, Émile P. (2024). The TESCREAL bundle: Eugenics and the promise of utopia through artificial general intelligence. First Monday, 29(4). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636'&gt;https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zu Stewart Brand:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Brand'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Brand&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zu Slava Gerovitch:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://web.mit.edu/slava/homepage/gerovitch-cv.html'&gt;https://web.mit.edu/slava/homepage/gerovitch-cv.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Klaus, G. (1973). Kybernetik – eine neue Universalwissenschaft der Gesellschaft? Akademie-Verlag Berlin. 
&lt;a href='http://www.max-stirner-archiv-leipzig.de/dokumente/KlausKybernetik.pdf'&gt;http://www.max-stirner-archiv-leipzig.de/dokumente/KlausKybernetik.pdf&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
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zum Gesetz über digitale Dienste (DSA):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesetz_%C3%BCber_digitale_Dienste'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesetz_%C3%BCber_digitale_Dienste&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
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zu Salome Viljoen:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.salomeviljoen.com/'&gt;https://www.salomeviljoen.com/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
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Virilio, P. (2009). Der integrale Unfall. transcript. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783839407219-001/pdf?licenseType=restricted&amp;amp;srsltid=AfmBOopKQ_tu9OPZ4VAcVzfGybsk3gwqub83XcQ-QYyJxxNWAmnlWU-c'&gt;https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783839407219-001/pdf?licenseType=restricted&amp;amp;srsltid=AfmBOopKQ_tu9OPZ4VAcVzfGybsk3gwqub83XcQ-QYyJxxNWAmnlWU-c&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
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Pentland, A. (2014). Social physics: how good ideas spread-the lessons from a new science. Penguin.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://books.google.at/books/about/Social_Physics.html?id=KAL5AgAAQBAJ&amp;amp;redir_esc=y'&gt;https://books.google.at/books/about/Social_Physics.html?id=KAL5AgAAQBAJ&amp;amp;redir_esc=y&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
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Pentland, A. (2014a). Social physics: How social networks can make us smarter. Penguin.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://archive.org/details/socialphysicshow0000pent'&gt;https://archive.org/details/socialphysicshow0000pent&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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zu Felix Maschewski:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.criticaldatalab.org/felix-maschewski'&gt;https://www.criticaldatalab.org/felix-maschewski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Thematisch angrenzende Folgen&lt;/p&gt;
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S03E40 | Jan Overwijk on Cybernetic Capitalism and Critical Systems Theory &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://futurehistories-international.com/episodes/s03/e40-jan-overwijk-on-cybernetic-capitalism-and-critical-systems-theory/'&gt;https://futurehistories-international.com/episodes/s03/e40-jan-overwijk-on-cybernetic-capitalism-and-critical-systems-theory/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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S03E28 | Silke van Dyk zu alternativer Gouvernementalität&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e28-silke-van-dyk-zu-alternativer-gouvernementalitaet/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e28-silke-van-dyk-zu-alternativer-gouvernementalitaet/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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S02E31 | Thomas Swann on Anarchist Cybernetics &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e31-thomas-swann-on-anarchist-cybernetics/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e31-thomas-swann-on-anarchist-cybernetics/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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S01E22 | Anna-Verena Nosthoff und Felix Maschewski zu digitaler Verführung, sozialer Kontrolle und der Gesellschaft der Wearables&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e22-anna-verena-nosthoff-und-felix-maschewski-zu-digitaler-verfuehrung-sozialer-kontrolle-und-der-gesellschaft-der-wearables/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e22-anna-verena-nosthoff-und-felix-maschewski-zu-digitaler-verfuehrung-sozialer-kontrolle-und-der-gesellschaft-der-wearables/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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S01E18 | Simon Schaupp zu Kybernetik und radikaler Demokratie &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e18-simon-schaupp-zu-kybernetik-und-radikaler-demokratie/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e18-simon-schaupp-zu-kybernetik-und-radikaler-demokratie/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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S01E01 | Benjamin Seibel zu Kybernetik &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e01-benjamin-seibel-zu-kybernetik/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e01-benjamin-seibel-zu-kybernetik/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Episode Keywords &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;#Anna-Verena Nosthoff, #JanGroos, #FutureHistories, #Podcast, #Zukunft, #Kybernetik, #Gouvernementalität, #PolitischeKybernetik, #CyberneticGovernment, #CriticalDataLab, #Digitalisierung, #Informationstechnologie, #Plattformen, #SocialMedia, #Kapitalismus, #Imaginaries, #AlternativeRegierungskunst, #Regierbarkeit&lt;/p&gt;
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Anna-Verena Nosthoff zu Kybernetik und Kritik, digitaler Regierungskunst und der Rolle der Plattformen.

S03E58 - Anna-Verena Nosthoff zu Kybernetik und Kritik

Yanis Varoufakis and Raphael Arar discuss the Monetary Commons. 
 

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Shownotes
 
Yanis’ website:
<a href='https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/'>https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/</a>
 
Raphael’s website:
<a href='https://rarar.com/'>https://rarar.com/</a>
 
Iza Romanowska at Aarhus University:
<a href='https://pure.au.dk/portal/en/persons/iza-romanowska/'>https://pure.au.dk/portal/en/persons/iza-romanowska/</a>
 
Hirad’s website:
<a href='https://hiradsab.com/'>https://hiradsab.com/</a>
 
the Monetary Commons website:
<a href='https://monetarycommons.com/'>https://monetarycommons.com/</a>
 
Varoufakis, Y. (2024). Technofeudalism. What Killed Capitalism. Vintage Books.
<a href='https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/451795/technofeudalism-by-varoufakis-yanis/9781529926095'>https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/451795/technofeudalism-by-varoufakis-yanis/9781529926095</a>
 
Varoufakis, Y. (2021). Another Now. Melville House.
<a href='https://www.mhpbooks.com/books/another-now/'>https://www.mhpbooks.com/books/another-now/</a>
 
on the 2025 German ‘Sondervermögen’/‘The Special Fund for Infrastructure and Climate Neutrality’:
<a href='https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Web/EN/Issues/Public-Finances/SVIK/special-fund-infrastructure-and-climate-neutrality.html'>https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Web/EN/Issues/Public-Finances/SVIK/special-fund-infrastructure-and-climate-neutrality.html</a>
 
on Wolfgang Schäuble:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Sch%C3%A4uble'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Sch%C3%A4uble</a>
 
Graeber, D. (2011). Debt. The first 5,000 Years. Melville House.
<a href='https://files.libcom.org/files/__Debt__The_First_5_000_Years.pdf'>https://files.libcom.org/files/__Debt__The_First_5_000_Years.pdf</a>
 
on IOU’s:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOU'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOU</a>
 
on the Money Market Multiplier:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_multiplier'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_multiplier</a>
 
on Ludwig Wittgenstein’s argument of the impossibility of a private language:
<a href='https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/private-language/'>https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/private-language/</a>
 
on the Digital Renminbi in China:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_renminbi'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_renminbi</a>
 
on Universal Basic Income (UBI):
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income</a>
 
Berry, C. (2023). The Case for a Universal Basic Dividend. UCL Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose, Policy Brief series 25.
<a href='https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/sites/bartlett/files/berry_c_2023._the_case_for_a_universal_basic_dividend.pdf'>https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/sites/bartlett/files/berry_c_2023._the_case_for_a_universal_basic_dividend.pdf</a>
 
on fiat money:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_money'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_money</a>
 
Varoufakis, Y. (2013). Bitcoin and the Dangerous Fantasy of ‘Apolitical’ Money.
<a href='https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/2013/04/22/bitcoin-and-the-dangerous-fantasy-of-apolitical-money/'>https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/2013/04/22/bitcoin-and-the-dangerous-fantasy-of-apolitical-money/</a>
 
on the case of Nicolas Guillou, French ICC judge, being sanctioned by the US:
<a href='https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/11/19/nicolas-guillou-french-icc-judge-sanctioned-by-the-us-you-are-effectively-blacklisted-by-much-of-the-world-s-banking-system_6747628_4.html'>https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/11/19/nicolas-guillou-french-icc-judge-sanctioned-by-the-us-you-are-effectively-blacklisted-by-much-of-the-world-s-banking-system_6747628_4.html</a>
 
on the distributed ledger technology:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_ledger'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_ledger</a>
 
Mau, S. (2023). Mute Compulsion. A Marxist Theory of the Economic Power of Capital. Verso.
<a href='https://www.versobooks.com/products/2759-mute-compulsion'>https://www.versobooks.com/products/2759-mute-compulsion</a>
 
McCarthy, M. A. (2025). The Master's Tools. How Finance Wrecked Democracy (And a Radical Plan to Rebuild It). Verso.
<a href='https://www.versobooks.com/products/755-the-master-s-tools'>https://www.versobooks.com/products/755-the-master-s-tools</a>
 
Sorg, C. (2025). Finance as a Form of Economic Planning. Competition &amp; Change, 29(1), 17-37.
<a href='https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10245294231217578'>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10245294231217578</a>
 
on citizen’s assemblies:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_assembly'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_assembly</a>
 
on the International Monetary Fund (IMF):
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund</a>
 
on the Digital Euro:
<a href='https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/digital_euro/html/index.en.html'>https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/digital_euro/html/index.en.html</a>
 
the essay that includes the quote by Peter Thiel on the incompatibility of liberalism/capitalism and democracy:
<a href='https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/education-libertarian/'>https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/education-libertarian/</a>
 
on the Meidner Plan:
<a href='https://jacobin.com/2025/08/sweden-socialism-rehn-meidner-plan'>https://jacobin.com/2025/08/sweden-socialism-rehn-meidner-plan</a>
 
on the Trump administration buying 10% of Intel shares:
<a href='https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-economic-and-policy-experts-think-about-the-u-s-governments-stake-in-intel'>https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-economic-and-policy-experts-think-about-the-u-s-governments-stake-in-intel</a>
 
on Cloud Capital (see also Yanis’ ‘Technofeudalism’ book):
<a href='https://youtu.be/3gsGvgrsyOU?si=fQwW5BEHBFDvB980'>https://youtu.be/3gsGvgrsyOU?si=fQwW5BEHBFDvB980</a>
 
on Ursula K. Le Guin:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_K._Le_Guin'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_K._Le_Guin</a>
 
the speech including the mentioned quote by her:
<a href='https://youtu.be/Et9Nf-rsALk?si=VCGW4OoDqY0HXa2E'>https://youtu.be/Et9Nf-rsALk?si=VCGW4OoDqY0HXa2E</a>
 
on the 1973 Coup in Chile:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat</a>
 
on Modern Monetary Theory (MMT):
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Monetary_Theory'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Monetary_Theory</a>
 
on Fernando Haddad:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Haddad'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Haddad</a>
 
on pix:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pix_(payment_system)'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pix_(payment_system)</a>
 
on the 2008 financial crisis in Iceland:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932011_Icelandic_financial_crisis'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932011_Icelandic_financial_crisis</a> 
 

 
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<description>&lt;p&gt;Yanis Varoufakis and Raphael Arar discuss the Monetary Commons.

&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Find the feed of English episodes only here: &lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories-international.com/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories-international.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Shownotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Yanis’ website:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/'&gt;https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Raphael’s website:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://rarar.com/'&gt;https://rarar.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Iza Romanowska at Aarhus University:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://pure.au.dk/portal/en/persons/iza-romanowska/'&gt;https://pure.au.dk/portal/en/persons/iza-romanowska/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Hirad’s website:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://hiradsab.com/'&gt;https://hiradsab.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
the Monetary Commons website:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://monetarycommons.com/'&gt;https://monetarycommons.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Varoufakis, Y. (2024). Technofeudalism. What Killed Capitalism. Vintage Books.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/451795/technofeudalism-by-varoufakis-yanis/9781529926095'&gt;https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/451795/technofeudalism-by-varoufakis-yanis/9781529926095&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Varoufakis, Y. (2021). Another Now. Melville House.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.mhpbooks.com/books/another-now/'&gt;https://www.mhpbooks.com/books/another-now/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the 2025 German ‘Sondervermögen’/‘The Special Fund for Infrastructure and Climate Neutrality’:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Web/EN/Issues/Public-Finances/SVIK/special-fund-infrastructure-and-climate-neutrality.html'&gt;https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Web/EN/Issues/Public-Finances/SVIK/special-fund-infrastructure-and-climate-neutrality.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Wolfgang Schäuble:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Sch%C3%A4uble'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Sch%C3%A4uble&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Graeber, D. (2011). Debt. The first 5,000 Years. Melville House.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://files.libcom.org/files/__Debt__The_First_5_000_Years.pdf'&gt;https://files.libcom.org/files/__Debt__The_First_5_000_Years.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on IOU’s:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOU'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOU&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the Money Market Multiplier:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_multiplier'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_multiplier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Ludwig Wittgenstein’s argument of the impossibility of a private language:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/private-language/'&gt;https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/private-language/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the Digital Renminbi in China:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_renminbi'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_renminbi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Universal Basic Income (UBI):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Berry, C. (2023). The Case for a Universal Basic Dividend. UCL Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose, Policy Brief series 25.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/sites/bartlett/files/berry_c_2023._the_case_for_a_universal_basic_dividend.pdf'&gt;https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/sites/bartlett/files/berry_c_2023._the_case_for_a_universal_basic_dividend.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on fiat money:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_money'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_money&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Varoufakis, Y. (2013). Bitcoin and the Dangerous Fantasy of ‘Apolitical’ Money.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/2013/04/22/bitcoin-and-the-dangerous-fantasy-of-apolitical-money/'&gt;https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/2013/04/22/bitcoin-and-the-dangerous-fantasy-of-apolitical-money/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the case of Nicolas Guillou, French ICC judge, being sanctioned by the US:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/11/19/nicolas-guillou-french-icc-judge-sanctioned-by-the-us-you-are-effectively-blacklisted-by-much-of-the-world-s-banking-system_6747628_4.html'&gt;https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/11/19/nicolas-guillou-french-icc-judge-sanctioned-by-the-us-you-are-effectively-blacklisted-by-much-of-the-world-s-banking-system_6747628_4.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the distributed ledger technology:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_ledger'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_ledger&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Mau, S. (2023). Mute Compulsion. A Marxist Theory of the Economic Power of Capital. Verso.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.versobooks.com/products/2759-mute-compulsion'&gt;https://www.versobooks.com/products/2759-mute-compulsion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
McCarthy, M. A. (2025). The Master's Tools. How Finance Wrecked Democracy (And a Radical Plan to Rebuild It). Verso.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.versobooks.com/products/755-the-master-s-tools'&gt;https://www.versobooks.com/products/755-the-master-s-tools&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Sorg, C. (2025). Finance as a Form of Economic Planning. Competition &amp;amp; Change, 29(1), 17-37.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10245294231217578'&gt;https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10245294231217578&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on citizen’s assemblies:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_assembly'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_assembly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the International Monetary Fund (IMF):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the Digital Euro:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/digital_euro/html/index.en.html'&gt;https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/digital_euro/html/index.en.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
the essay that includes the quote by Peter Thiel on the incompatibility of liberalism/capitalism and democracy:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/education-libertarian/'&gt;https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/education-libertarian/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the Meidner Plan:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://jacobin.com/2025/08/sweden-socialism-rehn-meidner-plan'&gt;https://jacobin.com/2025/08/sweden-socialism-rehn-meidner-plan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the Trump administration buying 10% of Intel shares:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-economic-and-policy-experts-think-about-the-u-s-governments-stake-in-intel'&gt;https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-economic-and-policy-experts-think-about-the-u-s-governments-stake-in-intel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Cloud Capital (see also Yanis’ ‘Technofeudalism’ book):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://youtu.be/3gsGvgrsyOU?si=fQwW5BEHBFDvB980'&gt;https://youtu.be/3gsGvgrsyOU?si=fQwW5BEHBFDvB980&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Ursula K. Le Guin:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_K._Le_Guin'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_K._Le_Guin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
the speech including the mentioned quote by her:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://youtu.be/Et9Nf-rsALk?si=VCGW4OoDqY0HXa2E'&gt;https://youtu.be/Et9Nf-rsALk?si=VCGW4OoDqY0HXa2E&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the 1973 Coup in Chile:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Modern Monetary Theory (MMT):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Monetary_Theory'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Monetary_Theory&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Fernando Haddad:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Haddad'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Haddad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on pix:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pix_(payment_system)'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pix_(payment_system)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the 2008 financial crisis in Iceland:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932011_Icelandic_financial_crisis'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932011_Icelandic_financial_crisis&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e29-nancy-fraser-on-alternatives-to-capitalism/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e29-nancy-fraser-on-alternatives-to-capitalism/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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S03E21 | Christoph Sorg zu Finanzwirtschaft als Planung&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e21-christoph-sorg-zu-finanzwirtschaft-als-planung/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e21-christoph-sorg-zu-finanzwirtschaft-als-planung/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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S03E19 | Wendy Brown on Socialist Governmentality&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e19-wendy-brown-on-socialist-governmentality/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e19-wendy-brown-on-socialist-governmentality/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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S02E34 | tante zu Crypto-Imaginaries und alternativen technologischen Infrastrukturen&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e34-tante-zu-crypto-imaginaries-und-alternativen-technologischen-infrastrukturen/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e34-tante-zu-crypto-imaginaries-und-alternativen-technologischen-infrastrukturen/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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S02E28 | Marcus Meindel zum Global Commoning System&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e28-marcus-meindel-zum-global-commoning-system/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e28-marcus-meindel-zum-global-commoning-system/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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S01E59 | Joscha Wullweber zu Zentralbankkapitalismus&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e59-joscha-wullweber-zu-zentralbankkapitalismus/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e59-joscha-wullweber-zu-zentralbankkapitalismus/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e34-aaron-sahr-zu-monetaerer-souveraenitaet-und-modern-monetary-theory-teil-2/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e34-aaron-sahr-zu-monetaerer-souveraenitaet-und-modern-monetary-theory-teil-2/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e33-aaron-sahr-zu-monetaerer-souveraenitaet-und-modern-monetary-theory-teil-1/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e33-aaron-sahr-zu-monetaerer-souveraenitaet-und-modern-monetary-theory-teil-1/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
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Yanis Varoufakis and Raphael Arar discuss the Monetary Commons

S03E57 - Yanis Varoufakis and Raphael Arar on the Monetary Commons

Ankündigung
Future Histories LIVE in Berlin! Am 26.1. spreche ich mit der großartigen Anna-Verena Nosthoff über ihr neues Buch "Kybernetik und Kritik" (Suhrkamp Verlag) im Medientheater der Humboldt-Universität.
Beginn: 18:30 
Ort: Georgenstraße 47, Berlin
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Miriam Lang zu Systemalternativen jenseits des Entwicklungsparadigmas.
 
Shownotes
 
Miriam Lang an der Universidad Andina Simón Bolívar:
<a href='https://www.uasb.edu.ec/docente/miriam-lang-id907/'>https://www.uasb.edu.ec/docente/miriam-lang-id907/</a>
 
Global Working Group Beyond Development:
<a href='https://beyonddevelopment.net/'>https://beyonddevelopment.net/</a>
 
Pacto EcoSocial e Intercultural del Sur:
<a href='https://pactoecosocialdelsur.com/'>https://pactoecosocialdelsur.com/</a>
 
Lang, M., Manahan, M. A., &amp; Bringel, B. (Hrsg.). (2025).  Grüner Kolonialismus. Zwischen Energiewende und globaler Gerechtigkeit. oekom Verlag.
<a href='https://www.oekom.de/buch/gruener-kolonialismus-9783987261671'>https://www.oekom.de/buch/gruener-kolonialismus-9783987261671</a>
 
Hoffman, O. (2025). Polykrise. Anatomie eines globalen Zusammenbruchs. Warum alle Krisen zusammenhängen - und was das für unsere Zukunft bedeutet. Königshausen &amp; Neumann.
<a href='https://verlag.koenigshausen-neumann.de/product/9783826093883-polykrise/'>https://verlag.koenigshausen-neumann.de/product/9783826093883-polykrise/</a>
 
zu Intersektionalität:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersektionalit%C3%A4t'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersektionalit%C3%A4t</a>
 
Acosta, A. (2015). Buen vivir. Vom Recht auf ein gutes Leben. oekom Verlag.
<a href='https://www.oekom.de/buch/buen-vivir-9783865817051'>https://www.oekom.de/buch/buen-vivir-9783865817051</a>
 
zum „Sozialismus des 21. Jahrhunderts“:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sozialismus_des_21._Jahrhunderts'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sozialismus_des_21._Jahrhunderts</a>
 
Peters, S. (2019). Sozialismus des 21. Jahrhunderts in Venezuela. Aufstieg und Fall der Bolivarischen Revolution von Hugo Chávez. Schmetterling Verlag.
<a href='https://schmetterling-verlag.de/produkt/sozialismus-des-21-jahrhunderts-in-venezuela/'>https://schmetterling-verlag.de/produkt/sozialismus-des-21-jahrhunderts-in-venezuela/</a>
 
zur Gesamtamerikanischen Freihandelszone ALCA:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerikanische_Freihandelszone'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerikanische_Freihandelszone</a>
 
zum zapatistischen Aufstand in Chiapas:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiapas-Konflikt'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiapas-Konflikt</a>
 
zur CONAIE (Confederación de Nacionalidades Indígenas del Ecuador):
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONAIE'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONAIE</a>
 
zu BRICS:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS</a>
 
zur UNASUR (Unión de Naciones Suramericanas):
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_S%C3%BCdamerikanischer_Nationen'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_S%C3%BCdamerikanischer_Nationen</a>
 
zu Hugo Chávez:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez</a>
 
zu Rafael Correa:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Correa'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Correa</a>
 
zu Álvaro García Linera:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_Garc%C3%ADa_Linera'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_Garc%C3%ADa_Linera</a>
 
zu Evo Morales:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evo_Morales'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evo_Morales</a>
 
Barié, C. G. (2022). Representation of Indigenous Peoples in Times of Progressive Governments. Lessons Learned from Bolivia. Latin American and Caribbean Ethnic Studies, 17(2), 167–192.
<a href='https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17442222.2020.1839225'>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17442222.2020.1839225</a>
 
zum Ministerium der Kultur, Dekolonialisierung und Depatriarchalisierung in Bolivien:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Cultures_(Bolivia)'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Cultures_(Bolivia)</a>
 
zu Extraktivismus:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraktivismus'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraktivismus</a>
 
Riofrancos, T. (2025). Extraction. The Frontiers of Green Capitalism. W.W. Norton.
<a href='https://www.theariofrancos.com/extraction'>https://www.theariofrancos.com/extraction</a>
 
zur PSUV (Partido Socialista Unido de Venezuela):
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partido_Socialista_Unido_de_Venezuela'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partido_Socialista_Unido_de_Venezuela</a>
 
de Sousa Santos, B. (2018). Epistemologien des Südens. Gegen die Hegemonie des westlichen Denkens. Unrast Verlag.
<a href='https://www.isbn.de/buch/9783897712423/epistemologien-des-suedens'>https://www.isbn.de/buch/9783897712423/epistemologien-des-suedens</a>
 
zu Daniel Noboa:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Noboa'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Noboa</a>
 
zum Schuldenaudit in Ecuador in 2007:
<a href='https://www.debtforclimate.org/post/8-2008-ecuador-buys-back-its-own-debt-after-audit'>https://www.debtforclimate.org/post/8-2008-ecuador-buys-back-its-own-debt-after-audit</a>
 
zur Bank des Südens:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_des_S%C3%BCdens'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_des_S%C3%BCdens</a>
 
zur ALBA (Bolivarianische Allianz für die Völker unseres Amerika – Handelsvertrag der Völker):
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivarianische_Allianz_f%C3%BCr_Amerika'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivarianische_Allianz_f%C3%BCr_Amerika</a>
 
zum Consejo Nacional para la Igualdad de Género (Nationaler Rat für Geschlechtergleichstellung):
<a href='https://www.igualdadgenero.gob.ec/'>https://www.igualdadgenero.gob.ec/</a>
 
Amin, S. (1990). Delinking. Towards a Polycentric World. Zed Books.
<a href='https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/delinking-9780862328030/'>https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/delinking-9780862328030/</a>
 
zum informellen Sektor der Wirtschaft:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informelle_Wirtschaft'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informelle_Wirtschaft</a>
 
zu Commoning:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commoning'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commoning</a>
 
Aguilar, R. G. (2024). In Defense of Common Life. The Political Thought of Raquel Gutiérrez Aguilar. Common Notions.
<a href='https://www.commonnotions.org/in-defense-of-common-life'>https://www.commonnotions.org/in-defense-of-common-life</a>
 
Kothari. A. et al. (Hrsg.). (2024). Pluriversum. Ein Lexikon des Guten Lebens für alle. AG SPAK Bücher.
<a href='https://www.agspak.de/pluriversum/'>https://www.agspak.de/pluriversum/</a>
 
zu J.K. Gibson Graham, Community Economies und Diverse Economies:
<a href='https://www.communityeconomies.org/people/jk-gibson-graham'>https://www.communityeconomies.org/people/jk-gibson-graham</a>
 
zu Ashish Kothari:
<a href='https://ashishkothari.in/'>https://ashishkothari.in/</a>
 
zu demokratischem Konföderalismus:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demokratischer_Konf%C3%B6deralismus'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demokratischer_Konf%C3%B6deralismus</a>
 
Gibson-Graham, J.K. &amp; Dombroski, K. (Hrsg.). (2020). The Handbook of Diverse Economies. Edward Elgar.
<a href='https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/the-handbook-of-diverse-economies-9781788119955.html'>https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/the-handbook-of-diverse-economies-9781788119955.html</a>
 
van Dyk, S. &amp; Haubner, T. (2021). Community-Kapitalismus. Hamburger Edition.
<a href='https://www.hamburger-edition.de/buecher-e-books/artikel-detail/community-kapitalismus/'>https://www.hamburger-edition.de/buecher-e-books/artikel-detail/community-kapitalismus/</a>
 
London Edinburgh Weekend Return Group (1979). In and Against the State. Discussion Notes for Socialists. Pluto Press.
<a href='https://www.plutobooks.com/product/in-and-against-the-state/'>https://www.plutobooks.com/product/in-and-against-the-state/</a>
 
zu Public-Commons Partnerships:
<a href='https://www.in-abundance.org/what-is-a-public-commons-parntership'>https://www.in-abundance.org/what-is-a-public-commons-parntership</a>
 
zu Aníbal Quijano:
<a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/An%C3%ADbal_Quijano'>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/An%C3%ADbal_Quijano</a>
 
Krüger, T. (2024). Munizipalismus. In: Eckardt, F. (Hrsg.). Handbuch Stadtsoziologie. Springer VS.
<a href='https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-3-658-42419-0_45-1'>https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-3-658-42419-0_45-1</a>
 
Gilbert, C. (2023). Commune or Nothing! Venezuela’s Communal Movement and its Socialist Project. Monthly Review Press.
<a href='https://monthlyreview.org/9781685900243/'>https://monthlyreview.org/9781685900243/</a>
 
zum gescheiterten Staatsstreich in Venezuela in 2002:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Venezuelan_coup_attempt'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Venezuelan_coup_attempt</a>
 
Fackler, M. (2023). Indigene Autonomie in Lateinamerika. Zwischen Selbstbestimmung und staatlicher Kontrolle. transcipt.
<a href='https://www.transcript-verlag.de/978-3-8376-5798-2/indigene-autonomie-in-lateinamerika/'>https://www.transcript-verlag.de/978-3-8376-5798-2/indigene-autonomie-in-lateinamerika/</a>
 
zum Kooperativennetzwerk Cecosesola:
<a href='https://cecosesola.org/'>https://cecosesola.org/</a>
 
zum Valley to Valley Projekt:
<a href='https://valleytovalley.org/'>https://valleytovalley.org/</a>
 
Bennholdt-Thomsen, V. &amp; Mies, M. (1997). Eine Kuh für Hillary. Die Subsistenzperspektive. Verlag Frauenoffensive.
<a href='https://archive.org/details/Subsistenzperspektive/mode/2up'>https://archive.org/details/Subsistenzperspektive/mode/2up</a>
 
zu Bürgerräten in Deutschland:
<a href='https://www.buergerrat.de/buergerraete/bundesweite-buergerraete/'>https://www.buergerrat.de/buergerraete/bundesweite-buergerraete/</a>
 
zur Mink'a:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minka_(communal_work)'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minka_(communal_work)</a>
 
Fressoz, J-B. (2025). More and More and More. An All Consuming History.Penguin.
<a href='https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/464145/more-and-more-and-more-by-fressoz-jean-baptiste/9781802067316'>https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/464145/more-and-more-and-more-by-fressoz-jean-baptiste/9781802067316</a>
 
 
 
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<a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e48-kai-heron-keir-milburn-and-bertie-russell-on-radical-abundance/'>https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e48-kai-heron-keir-milburn-and-bertie-russell-on-radical-abundance/</a>
 
S03E35 | Andreas Folkers zu Nachhaltigkeit, Resilienz und gesellschaftlichen Naturverhältnissen
<a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e35-andreas-folkers-zu-nachhaltigkeit-resilienz-und-gesellschaftlichen-naturverhaeltnissen/'>https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e35-andreas-folkers-zu-nachhaltigkeit-resilienz-und-gesellschaftlichen-naturverhaeltnissen/</a>
 
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S03E28 | Silke van Dyk zu alternativer Gouvernementalität
<a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e28-silke-van-dyk-zu-alternativer-gouvernementalitaet/'>https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e28-silke-van-dyk-zu-alternativer-gouvernementalitaet/</a>
 
S03E18 | Indigo Drau und Jonna Klick zu Revolution als Commonisierung
<a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e18-indigo-drau-und-jonna-klick-zu-revolution-als-commonisierung/'>https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e18-indigo-drau-und-jonna-klick-zu-revolution-als-commonisierung/</a>
 
S03E16 | Daniela Russ zu Energie(wirtschaft) und produktivistischer Ökologie
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S02E49 | Elisa Loncón Antileo on Plurinational Constitutionalism
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Episode Keywords
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<description>&lt;p&gt;Ankündigung&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Future Histories LIVE in Berlin! Am 26.1. spreche ich mit der großartigen Anna-Verena Nosthoff über ihr neues Buch "Kybernetik und Kritik" (Suhrkamp Verlag) im Medientheater der Humboldt-Universität.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Beginn: 18:30 
Ort: Georgenstraße 47, Berlin&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Miriam Lang zu Systemalternativen jenseits des Entwicklungsparadigmas.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Shownotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Miriam Lang an der Universidad Andina Simón Bolívar:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.uasb.edu.ec/docente/miriam-lang-id907/'&gt;https://www.uasb.edu.ec/docente/miriam-lang-id907/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Global Working Group Beyond Development:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://beyonddevelopment.net/'&gt;https://beyonddevelopment.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Pacto EcoSocial e Intercultural del Sur:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://pactoecosocialdelsur.com/'&gt;https://pactoecosocialdelsur.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Lang, M., Manahan, M. A., &amp;amp; Bringel, B. (Hrsg.). (2025).  Grüner Kolonialismus. Zwischen Energiewende und globaler Gerechtigkeit. oekom Verlag.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.oekom.de/buch/gruener-kolonialismus-9783987261671'&gt;https://www.oekom.de/buch/gruener-kolonialismus-9783987261671&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Hoffman, O. (2025). Polykrise. Anatomie eines globalen Zusammenbruchs. Warum alle Krisen zusammenhängen - und was das für unsere Zukunft bedeutet. Königshausen &amp;amp; Neumann.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://verlag.koenigshausen-neumann.de/product/9783826093883-polykrise/'&gt;https://verlag.koenigshausen-neumann.de/product/9783826093883-polykrise/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zu Intersektionalität:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersektionalit%C3%A4t'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersektionalit%C3%A4t&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Acosta, A. (2015). Buen vivir. Vom Recht auf ein gutes Leben. oekom Verlag.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.oekom.de/buch/buen-vivir-9783865817051'&gt;https://www.oekom.de/buch/buen-vivir-9783865817051&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zum „Sozialismus des 21. Jahrhunderts“:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sozialismus_des_21._Jahrhunderts'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sozialismus_des_21._Jahrhunderts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Peters, S. (2019). Sozialismus des 21. Jahrhunderts in Venezuela. Aufstieg und Fall der Bolivarischen Revolution von Hugo Chávez. Schmetterling Verlag.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://schmetterling-verlag.de/produkt/sozialismus-des-21-jahrhunderts-in-venezuela/'&gt;https://schmetterling-verlag.de/produkt/sozialismus-des-21-jahrhunderts-in-venezuela/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zur Gesamtamerikanischen Freihandelszone ALCA:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerikanische_Freihandelszone'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerikanische_Freihandelszone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zum zapatistischen Aufstand in Chiapas:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiapas-Konflikt'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiapas-Konflikt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zur CONAIE (Confederación de Nacionalidades Indígenas del Ecuador):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONAIE'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONAIE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zu BRICS:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zur UNASUR (Unión de Naciones Suramericanas):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_S%C3%BCdamerikanischer_Nationen'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_S%C3%BCdamerikanischer_Nationen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zu Hugo Chávez:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zu Rafael Correa:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Correa'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Correa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zu Álvaro García Linera:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_Garc%C3%ADa_Linera'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_Garc%C3%ADa_Linera&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zu Evo Morales:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evo_Morales'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evo_Morales&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Barié, C. G. (2022). Representation of Indigenous Peoples in Times of Progressive Governments. Lessons Learned from Bolivia. Latin American and Caribbean Ethnic Studies, 17(2), 167–192.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17442222.2020.1839225'&gt;https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17442222.2020.1839225&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zum Ministerium der Kultur, Dekolonialisierung und Depatriarchalisierung in Bolivien:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Cultures_(Bolivia)'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Cultures_(Bolivia)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zu Extraktivismus:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraktivismus'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraktivismus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Riofrancos, T. (2025). Extraction. The Frontiers of Green Capitalism. W.W. Norton.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.theariofrancos.com/extraction'&gt;https://www.theariofrancos.com/extraction&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zur PSUV (Partido Socialista Unido de Venezuela):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partido_Socialista_Unido_de_Venezuela'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partido_Socialista_Unido_de_Venezuela&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
de Sousa Santos, B. (2018). Epistemologien des Südens. Gegen die Hegemonie des westlichen Denkens. Unrast Verlag.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.isbn.de/buch/9783897712423/epistemologien-des-suedens'&gt;https://www.isbn.de/buch/9783897712423/epistemologien-des-suedens&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zu Daniel Noboa:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Noboa'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Noboa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zum Schuldenaudit in Ecuador in 2007:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.debtforclimate.org/post/8-2008-ecuador-buys-back-its-own-debt-after-audit'&gt;https://www.debtforclimate.org/post/8-2008-ecuador-buys-back-its-own-debt-after-audit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zur Bank des Südens:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_des_S%C3%BCdens'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_des_S%C3%BCdens&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zur ALBA (Bolivarianische Allianz für die Völker unseres Amerika – Handelsvertrag der Völker):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivarianische_Allianz_f%C3%BCr_Amerika'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivarianische_Allianz_f%C3%BCr_Amerika&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zum Consejo Nacional para la Igualdad de Género (Nationaler Rat für Geschlechtergleichstellung):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.igualdadgenero.gob.ec/'&gt;https://www.igualdadgenero.gob.ec/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Amin, S. (1990). Delinking. Towards a Polycentric World. Zed Books.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/delinking-9780862328030/'&gt;https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/delinking-9780862328030/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zum informellen Sektor der Wirtschaft:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informelle_Wirtschaft'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informelle_Wirtschaft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zu Commoning:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commoning'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commoning&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Aguilar, R. G. (2024). In Defense of Common Life. The Political Thought of Raquel Gutiérrez Aguilar. Common Notions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.commonnotions.org/in-defense-of-common-life'&gt;https://www.commonnotions.org/in-defense-of-common-life&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Kothari. A. et al. (Hrsg.). (2024). Pluriversum. Ein Lexikon des Guten Lebens für alle. AG SPAK Bücher.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.agspak.de/pluriversum/'&gt;https://www.agspak.de/pluriversum/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zu J.K. Gibson Graham, Community Economies und Diverse Economies:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.communityeconomies.org/people/jk-gibson-graham'&gt;https://www.communityeconomies.org/people/jk-gibson-graham&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zu Ashish Kothari:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://ashishkothari.in/'&gt;https://ashishkothari.in/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zu demokratischem Konföderalismus:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demokratischer_Konf%C3%B6deralismus'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demokratischer_Konf%C3%B6deralismus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Gibson-Graham, J.K. &amp;amp; Dombroski, K. (Hrsg.). (2020). The Handbook of Diverse Economies. Edward Elgar.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/the-handbook-of-diverse-economies-9781788119955.html'&gt;https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/the-handbook-of-diverse-economies-9781788119955.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
van Dyk, S. &amp;amp; Haubner, T. (2021). Community-Kapitalismus. Hamburger Edition.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.hamburger-edition.de/buecher-e-books/artikel-detail/community-kapitalismus/'&gt;https://www.hamburger-edition.de/buecher-e-books/artikel-detail/community-kapitalismus/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
London Edinburgh Weekend Return Group (1979). In and Against the State. Discussion Notes for Socialists. Pluto Press.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.plutobooks.com/product/in-and-against-the-state/'&gt;https://www.plutobooks.com/product/in-and-against-the-state/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zu Public-Commons Partnerships:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.in-abundance.org/what-is-a-public-commons-parntership'&gt;https://www.in-abundance.org/what-is-a-public-commons-parntership&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zu Aníbal Quijano:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/An%C3%ADbal_Quijano'&gt;https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/An%C3%ADbal_Quijano&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Krüger, T. (2024). Munizipalismus. In: Eckardt, F. (Hrsg.). Handbuch Stadtsoziologie. Springer VS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-3-658-42419-0_45-1'&gt;https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-3-658-42419-0_45-1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Gilbert, C. (2023). Commune or Nothing! Venezuela’s Communal Movement and its Socialist Project. Monthly Review Press.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://monthlyreview.org/9781685900243/'&gt;https://monthlyreview.org/9781685900243/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zum gescheiterten Staatsstreich in Venezuela in 2002:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Venezuelan_coup_attempt'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Venezuelan_coup_attempt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Fackler, M. (2023). Indigene Autonomie in Lateinamerika. Zwischen Selbstbestimmung und staatlicher Kontrolle. transcipt.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.transcript-verlag.de/978-3-8376-5798-2/indigene-autonomie-in-lateinamerika/'&gt;https://www.transcript-verlag.de/978-3-8376-5798-2/indigene-autonomie-in-lateinamerika/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zum Kooperativennetzwerk Cecosesola:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://cecosesola.org/'&gt;https://cecosesola.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zum Valley to Valley Projekt:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://valleytovalley.org/'&gt;https://valleytovalley.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Bennholdt-Thomsen, V. &amp;amp; Mies, M. (1997). Eine Kuh für Hillary. Die Subsistenzperspektive. Verlag Frauenoffensive.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://archive.org/details/Subsistenzperspektive/mode/2up'&gt;https://archive.org/details/Subsistenzperspektive/mode/2up&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zu Bürgerräten in Deutschland:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.buergerrat.de/buergerraete/bundesweite-buergerraete/'&gt;https://www.buergerrat.de/buergerraete/bundesweite-buergerraete/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
zur Mink'a:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minka_(communal_work)'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minka_(communal_work)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Fressoz, J-B. (2025). More and More and More. An All Consuming History.Penguin.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/464145/more-and-more-and-more-by-fressoz-jean-baptiste/9781802067316'&gt;https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/464145/more-and-more-and-more-by-fressoz-jean-baptiste/9781802067316&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Miriam Lang zu Systemalternativen jenseits des Entwicklungsparadigmas.

S03E56 - Miriam Lang zu Systemalternativen jenseits des Entwicklungsparadigmas

Kim Stanley Robinson discusses Real Utopian Futures.
 
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Shownotes
 
The reference page on Kim Stanley Robinson, his works, interviews, talks, etc. (including a discussion forum):
<a href='https://www.kimstanleyrobinson.info/'>https://www.kimstanleyrobinson.info/</a>
 
Robinson, K. S. (2020). The Ministry for the Future. Orbit Books.
<a href='https://www.orbit-books.co.uk/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/the-ministry-for-the-future/9780356508863/'>https://www.orbit-books.co.uk/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/the-ministry-for-the-future/9780356508863/</a>
 
Robinson, K. S. (2017). New York 2140. Orbit Books.
<a href='https://www.orbit-books.co.uk/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/new-york-2140/9780356508788/'>https://www.orbit-books.co.uk/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/new-york-2140/9780356508788/</a>
 
Robinson, K. S. (1988). The Gold Coast. Macmillan.
<a href='https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780312890377/thegoldcoast/'>https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780312890377/thegoldcoast/</a>
 
Blumenfeld, J. (2024). Managing Decline. Cured Quail, Vol. 3.
<a href='https://curedquail.com/Managing-Decline'>https://curedquail.com/Managing-Decline</a>
 
Blumenfeld, J. (2022). Climate Barbarism. Adapting to a wrong World. Constellations, 30, 162–178.
<a href='https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1467-8675.12596'>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1467-8675.12596</a>
 
the quoted Kohei Saito video:
<a href='https://youtube.com/shorts/WnvhD7p651M?si=SdfPftKOCJM6MS9j'>https://youtube.com/shorts/WnvhD7p651M?si=SdfPftKOCJM6MS9j</a>
 
the lecture in which Kim Stanley Robinson talks about “futurecide” and “preemptive capitulation”:
<a href='https://youtu.be/HpzXkpx29S4?si=PVlOE53Hj5-BZR5B'>https://youtu.be/HpzXkpx29S4?si=PVlOE53Hj5-BZR5B</a>
reporting on and summary of the talk:
<a href='https://www.ioes.ucla.edu/article/the-war-on-science-is-here-kim-stanley-robinson-says-its-just-the-beginning/'>https://www.ioes.ucla.edu/article/the-war-on-science-is-here-kim-stanley-robinson-says-its-just-the-beginning/</a>
 
Löwy, M. (2005). What is Ecosocialism? Capitalism Nature Socialism, 16(2), 15–24.
<a href='https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10455750500108237'>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10455750500108237</a>
 
for an overview of the history and different schools of Ecomarxist/Ecosocialist theory:
<a href='https://www.historicalmaterialism.org/ecology-marxism-andreas-malm/'>https://www.historicalmaterialism.org/ecology-marxism-andreas-malm/</a>
 
on Anna Kornbluh:
<a href='http://www.annakornbluh.com/'>http://www.annakornbluh.com/</a>
 
on Mass Extinction Events:
<a href='https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/what-is-mass-extinction-and-are-we-facing-a-sixth-one.html'>https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/what-is-mass-extinction-and-are-we-facing-a-sixth-one.html</a>
 
Dressler, A. (2025). You have 100 ‘Energy Slaves’. The Climate Brink.
<a href='https://www.theclimatebrink.com/p/you-have-100-energy-slaves'>https://www.theclimatebrink.com/p/you-have-100-energy-slaves</a>
 
on the 30 by 30 Biodiversity Goal:
<a href='https://www.cop28.com/en/thought-leadership/The-30x30-Biodiversity-Goal-at-COP28'>https://www.cop28.com/en/thought-leadership/The-30x30-Biodiversity-Goal-at-COP28</a>
 
the International Maritime Organization:
<a href='https://www.imo.org/'>https://www.imo.org/</a>
 
on the ‘Half-Earth Project’:
<a href='https://eowilsonfoundation.org/what-is-the-half-earth-project/'>https://eowilsonfoundation.org/what-is-the-half-earth-project/</a>
 
Wilson, E. O. (2016). Half-Earth. Our Planet’s Fight for Life. Norton Books.
<a href='https://wwnorton.com/books/9781631492525'>https://wwnorton.com/books/9781631492525</a>
 
Pendergrass, D. &amp; Vettese, T. (2022). Half-Earth Socialism. A Plan to Save the Future from Extinction, Climate Change and Pandemics. Verso.
<a href='https://www.versobooks.com/products/2650-half-earth-socialism'>https://www.versobooks.com/products/2650-half-earth-socialism</a>
 
one of the many interviews/talks in which Kim Stanley Robinson talks about science fiction as the realism of our times:
<a href='https://youtu.be/p1wNhc46xjE?si=hOdKuwRQhef-9tLs'>https://youtu.be/p1wNhc46xjE?si=hOdKuwRQhef-9tLs</a>
 
on the Turing Test:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test</a>
 
on Neoliberalism attaching itself to demands of the New Left:
Boltanski, L. &amp; Chiapello, E. (2018). The New Spirit of Capitalism. Verso.
<a href='https://www.versobooks.com/products/1980-the-new-spirit-of-capitalism'>https://www.versobooks.com/products/1980-the-new-spirit-of-capitalism</a>
 
on Friedrich Hayek:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hayek'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hayek</a>
 
Williams, R. (2015). Structures of Feeling. In: D. Sharma &amp; F. Tygstrup (Ed.), Structures of Feeling. Affectivity and the Study of Culture (pp. 20-26).
<a href='https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110365481.20/html'>https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110365481.20/html</a>
 
on Keynesianism:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics</a>
 
Vogl, J. (2017). The Ascendancy of Finance. Polity Press.
<a href='https://www.politybooks.com/bookdetail?book_slug=the-ascendancy-of-finance--9781509509294'>https://www.politybooks.com/bookdetail?book_slug=the-ascendancy-of-finance--9781509509294</a>
 
Graeber, D. (2011). Debt. The First 5,000 Years. Melville House.
<a href='https://files.libcom.org/files/__Debt__The_First_5_000_Years.pdf'>https://files.libcom.org/files/__Debt__The_First_5_000_Years.pdf</a>
 
on Thomas Piketty:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Piketty'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Piketty</a>
 
on Gabriel Zucman:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Zucman'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Zucman</a>
 
on the ‘Zucman tax’: <a href='https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2025/09/23/zucman-tax-what-the-proposed-wealth-tax-would-mean-for-france_6745653_8.html'>https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2025/09/23/zucman-tax-what-the-proposed-wealth-tax-would-mean-for-france_6745653_8.html</a>
 
on Carbon Taxes:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_tax'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_tax</a>
 
Sorg, C. (2023). Finance as a Form of Economic Planning. Competition &amp; Change, 29(1), 17-37.
<a href='https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10245294231217578'>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10245294231217578</a>
 
Sarkar, S. (2024). The Carbon Coin. An Eco-Speculative Approach to Decarbonisation in Kim Stanley Robinson’s The Ministry for the Future. Green Letters, 28(4), 297–310.
<a href='https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14688417.2025.2483998'>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14688417.2025.2483998</a>
 
A policy proposal on ‘Carbon Reward’ from the same researcher whose earlier policy work inspired the ‘Carbon Coin’ idea in The Ministry for the Future:
<a href='https://deltonchen.substack.com/p/new-economic-blueprint-for-resolving'>https://deltonchen.substack.com/p/new-economic-blueprint-for-resolving</a>
see also:
<a href='https://globalcarbonreward.org/newsletters/carbon-coin/'>https://globalcarbonreward.org/newsletters/carbon-coin/</a>
 
on Quantitative Easing:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing</a>
 
on Carbon Drawdown:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_sequestration'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_sequestration</a>
 
on Nicolas Stern:
<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Stern,_Baron_Stern_of_Brentford'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Stern,_Baron_Stern_of_Brentford</a>
 
on the Democratic Socialists of America:
<a href='https://www.dsausa.org/'>https://www.dsausa.org/</a>
 
the Network for Greening the Financial System:
<a href='https://www.ngfs.net/en'>https://www.ngfs.net/en</a>
 
on COP30 in Belém:
<a href='https://unfccc.int/cop30'>https://unfccc.int/cop30</a>
 
Solnit, R. (2022). Orwell’s Roses. Penguin.
<a href='https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/607057/orwells-roses-by-rebecca-solnit/'>https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/607057/orwells-roses-by-rebecca-solnit/</a>
 
 
 
Future Histories Episodes on Related Topics
 
S3E47 | Jason W. Moore on Socialism in the Web of Life
<a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e47-jason-w-moore-on-socialism-in-the-web-of-life/'>https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e47-jason-w-moore-on-socialism-in-the-web-of-life/</a>
 
S03E44 | Anna Kornbluh on Climate Counteraesthetics
<a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e44-anna-kornbluh-on-climate-counteraesthetics/'>https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e44-anna-kornbluh-on-climate-counteraesthetics/</a>
 
S03E32 | Jacob Blumenfeld on Climate Barbarism and Managing Decline
<a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e32-jacob-blumenfeld-on-climate-barbarism-and-managing-decline/'>https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e32-jacob-blumenfeld-on-climate-barbarism-and-managing-decline/</a>
 
S03E30 | Matt Huber &amp; Kohei Saito on Growth, Progress and Left Imaginaries
<a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e30-matt-huber-kohei-saito-on-growth-progress-and-left-imaginaries/'>https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e30-matt-huber-kohei-saito-on-growth-progress-and-left-imaginaries/</a>
 
S03E23 | Andreas Malm on Overshooting into Climate Breakdown
<a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e23-andreas-malm-on-overshooting-into-climate-breakdown/'>https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e23-andreas-malm-on-overshooting-into-climate-breakdown/</a>
 
S02E18 | Drew Pendergrass and Troy Vettese on Half Earth Socialism
<a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e18-drew-pendergrass-and-troy-vettese-on-half-earth-socialism/'>https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e18-drew-pendergrass-and-troy-vettese-on-half-earth-socialism/</a>
 
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If you are interested in democratic economic planning, these resources might be of help:
 
Democratic planning – an information website
<a href='https://www.democratic-planning.com/'>https://www.democratic-planning.com/</a>
 
Sorg, C. &amp; Groos, J. (eds.)(2025). Rethinking Economic Planning. Competition &amp; Change Special Issue Volume 29 Issue 1.
<a href='https://journals.sagepub.com/toc/ccha/29/1'>https://journals.sagepub.com/toc/ccha/29/1</a>
 
Groos, J. &amp; Sorg, C. (2025). Creative Construction - Democratic Planning in the 21st Century and Beyond. Bristol University Press. [for a review copy, please contact: <a href='mailto:amber.lanfranchi@bristol.ac.uk'>amber.lanfranchi[at]bristol.ac.uk</a>]
<a href='https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-construction'>https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-construction</a>
 
International Network for Democratic Economic Planning
<a href='https://www.indep.network/'>https://www.indep.network/</a>
 
Democratic Planning Research Platform:
<a href='https://www.planningresearch.net/'>https://www.planningresearch.net/</a>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;Kim Stanley Robinson discusses Real Utopian Futures.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Find the feed of English episodes only here: &lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories-international.com/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories-international.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can also import the RSS feed to your favorite app: &lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories-international.com/feed.xml'&gt;https://www.futurehistories-international.com/feed.xml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Shownotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The reference page on Kim Stanley Robinson, his works, interviews, talks, etc. (including a discussion forum):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.kimstanleyrobinson.info/'&gt;https://www.kimstanleyrobinson.info/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Robinson, K. S. (2020). The Ministry for the Future. Orbit Books.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.orbit-books.co.uk/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/the-ministry-for-the-future/9780356508863/'&gt;https://www.orbit-books.co.uk/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/the-ministry-for-the-future/9780356508863/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Robinson, K. S. (2017). New York 2140. Orbit Books.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.orbit-books.co.uk/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/new-york-2140/9780356508788/'&gt;https://www.orbit-books.co.uk/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/new-york-2140/9780356508788/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Robinson, K. S. (1988). The Gold Coast. Macmillan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780312890377/thegoldcoast/'&gt;https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780312890377/thegoldcoast/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Blumenfeld, J. (2024). Managing Decline. Cured Quail, Vol. 3.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://curedquail.com/Managing-Decline'&gt;https://curedquail.com/Managing-Decline&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Blumenfeld, J. (2022). Climate Barbarism. Adapting to a wrong World. Constellations, 30, 162–178.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1467-8675.12596'&gt;https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1467-8675.12596&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
the quoted Kohei Saito video:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://youtube.com/shorts/WnvhD7p651M?si=SdfPftKOCJM6MS9j'&gt;https://youtube.com/shorts/WnvhD7p651M?si=SdfPftKOCJM6MS9j&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
the lecture in which Kim Stanley Robinson talks about “futurecide” and “preemptive capitulation”:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://youtu.be/HpzXkpx29S4?si=PVlOE53Hj5-BZR5B'&gt;https://youtu.be/HpzXkpx29S4?si=PVlOE53Hj5-BZR5B&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;reporting on and summary of the talk:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.ioes.ucla.edu/article/the-war-on-science-is-here-kim-stanley-robinson-says-its-just-the-beginning/'&gt;https://www.ioes.ucla.edu/article/the-war-on-science-is-here-kim-stanley-robinson-says-its-just-the-beginning/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Löwy, M. (2005). What is Ecosocialism? Capitalism Nature Socialism, 16(2), 15–24.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10455750500108237'&gt;https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10455750500108237&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
for an overview of the history and different schools of Ecomarxist/Ecosocialist theory:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.historicalmaterialism.org/ecology-marxism-andreas-malm/'&gt;https://www.historicalmaterialism.org/ecology-marxism-andreas-malm/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Anna Kornbluh:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='http://www.annakornbluh.com/'&gt;http://www.annakornbluh.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Mass Extinction Events:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/what-is-mass-extinction-and-are-we-facing-a-sixth-one.html'&gt;https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/what-is-mass-extinction-and-are-we-facing-a-sixth-one.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Dressler, A. (2025). You have 100 ‘Energy Slaves’. The Climate Brink.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.theclimatebrink.com/p/you-have-100-energy-slaves'&gt;https://www.theclimatebrink.com/p/you-have-100-energy-slaves&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the 30 by 30 Biodiversity Goal:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.cop28.com/en/thought-leadership/The-30x30-Biodiversity-Goal-at-COP28'&gt;https://www.cop28.com/en/thought-leadership/The-30x30-Biodiversity-Goal-at-COP28&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
the International Maritime Organization:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.imo.org/'&gt;https://www.imo.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the ‘Half-Earth Project’:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://eowilsonfoundation.org/what-is-the-half-earth-project/'&gt;https://eowilsonfoundation.org/what-is-the-half-earth-project/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Wilson, E. O. (2016). Half-Earth. Our Planet’s Fight for Life. Norton Books.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://wwnorton.com/books/9781631492525'&gt;https://wwnorton.com/books/9781631492525&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Pendergrass, D. &amp;amp; Vettese, T. (2022). Half-Earth Socialism. A Plan to Save the Future from Extinction, Climate Change and Pandemics. Verso.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.versobooks.com/products/2650-half-earth-socialism'&gt;https://www.versobooks.com/products/2650-half-earth-socialism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
one of the many interviews/talks in which Kim Stanley Robinson talks about science fiction as the realism of our times:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://youtu.be/p1wNhc46xjE?si=hOdKuwRQhef-9tLs'&gt;https://youtu.be/p1wNhc46xjE?si=hOdKuwRQhef-9tLs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the Turing Test:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Neoliberalism attaching itself to demands of the New Left:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Boltanski, L. &amp;amp; Chiapello, E. (2018). The New Spirit of Capitalism. Verso.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.versobooks.com/products/1980-the-new-spirit-of-capitalism'&gt;https://www.versobooks.com/products/1980-the-new-spirit-of-capitalism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Friedrich Hayek:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hayek'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hayek&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Williams, R. (2015). Structures of Feeling. In: D. Sharma &amp;amp; F. Tygstrup (Ed.), Structures of Feeling. Affectivity and the Study of Culture (pp. 20-26).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110365481.20/html'&gt;https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110365481.20/html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Keynesianism:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Vogl, J. (2017). The Ascendancy of Finance. Polity Press.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.politybooks.com/bookdetail?book_slug=the-ascendancy-of-finance--9781509509294'&gt;https://www.politybooks.com/bookdetail?book_slug=the-ascendancy-of-finance--9781509509294&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Graeber, D. (2011). Debt. The First 5,000 Years. Melville House.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://files.libcom.org/files/__Debt__The_First_5_000_Years.pdf'&gt;https://files.libcom.org/files/__Debt__The_First_5_000_Years.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Thomas Piketty:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Piketty'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Piketty&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Gabriel Zucman:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Zucman'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Zucman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the ‘Zucman tax’: &lt;a href='https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2025/09/23/zucman-tax-what-the-proposed-wealth-tax-would-mean-for-france_6745653_8.html'&gt;https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2025/09/23/zucman-tax-what-the-proposed-wealth-tax-would-mean-for-france_6745653_8.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Carbon Taxes:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_tax'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_tax&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Sorg, C. (2023). Finance as a Form of Economic Planning. Competition &amp;amp; Change, 29(1), 17-37.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10245294231217578'&gt;https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10245294231217578&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Sarkar, S. (2024). The Carbon Coin. An Eco-Speculative Approach to Decarbonisation in Kim Stanley Robinson’s The Ministry for the Future. Green Letters, 28(4), 297–310.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14688417.2025.2483998'&gt;https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14688417.2025.2483998&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
A policy proposal on ‘Carbon Reward’ from the same researcher whose earlier policy work inspired the ‘Carbon Coin’ idea in The Ministry for the Future:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://deltonchen.substack.com/p/new-economic-blueprint-for-resolving'&gt;https://deltonchen.substack.com/p/new-economic-blueprint-for-resolving&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;see also:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://globalcarbonreward.org/newsletters/carbon-coin/'&gt;https://globalcarbonreward.org/newsletters/carbon-coin/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Quantitative Easing:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Carbon Drawdown:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_sequestration'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_sequestration&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on Nicolas Stern:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Stern,_Baron_Stern_of_Brentford'&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Stern,_Baron_Stern_of_Brentford&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on the Democratic Socialists of America:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.dsausa.org/'&gt;https://www.dsausa.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
the Network for Greening the Financial System:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.ngfs.net/en'&gt;https://www.ngfs.net/en&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
on COP30 in Belém:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://unfccc.int/cop30'&gt;https://unfccc.int/cop30&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Solnit, R. (2022). Orwell’s Roses. Penguin.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/607057/orwells-roses-by-rebecca-solnit/'&gt;https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/607057/orwells-roses-by-rebecca-solnit/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;


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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e47-jason-w-moore-on-socialism-in-the-web-of-life/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e47-jason-w-moore-on-socialism-in-the-web-of-life/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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S03E44 | Anna Kornbluh on Climate Counteraesthetics&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e44-anna-kornbluh-on-climate-counteraesthetics/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e44-anna-kornbluh-on-climate-counteraesthetics/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
S03E32 | Jacob Blumenfeld on Climate Barbarism and Managing Decline&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e32-jacob-blumenfeld-on-climate-barbarism-and-managing-decline/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e32-jacob-blumenfeld-on-climate-barbarism-and-managing-decline/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
S03E30 | Matt Huber &amp;amp; Kohei Saito on Growth, Progress and Left Imaginaries&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e30-matt-huber-kohei-saito-on-growth-progress-and-left-imaginaries/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e30-matt-huber-kohei-saito-on-growth-progress-and-left-imaginaries/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
S03E23 | Andreas Malm on Overshooting into Climate Breakdown&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e23-andreas-malm-on-overshooting-into-climate-breakdown/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e23-andreas-malm-on-overshooting-into-climate-breakdown/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
S02E18 | Drew Pendergrass and Troy Vettese on Half Earth Socialism&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e18-drew-pendergrass-and-troy-vettese-on-half-earth-socialism/'&gt;https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e18-drew-pendergrass-and-troy-vettese-on-half-earth-socialism/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;If you are interested in democratic economic planning, these resources might be of help:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Democratic planning – an information website&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.democratic-planning.com/'&gt;https://www.democratic-planning.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Sorg, C. &amp;amp; Groos, J. (eds.)(2025). Rethinking Economic Planning. Competition &amp;amp; Change Special Issue Volume 29 Issue 1.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://journals.sagepub.com/toc/ccha/29/1'&gt;https://journals.sagepub.com/toc/ccha/29/1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Groos, J. &amp;amp; Sorg, C. (2025). Creative Construction - Democratic Planning in the 21st Century and Beyond. Bristol University Press. [for a review copy, please contact: &lt;a href='mailto:amber.lanfranchi@bristol.ac.uk'&gt;amber.lanfranchi[at]bristol.ac.uk&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-construction'&gt;https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-construction&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
International Network for Democratic Economic Planning&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.indep.network/'&gt;https://www.indep.network/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Democratic Planning Research Platform:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.planningresearch.net/'&gt;https://www.planningresearch.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;---&lt;/p&gt;
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