<p>On Wednesday, we watched in real time as America’s trade policy devolved into a parody of itself. Trump’s <em>Liberation Day</em> was part Caesar, part Mattress Mick, all empty bluster. A dodgy chalkboard of made-up numbers, a crowd in high-vis, and a president who thinks tariffs are just theatre. You may also have heard that Jeffrey Goldberg, editor of <em>The Atlantic</em> and friend of the pod, was <em>accidentally added</em> to a Signal group chat planning actual U.S. airstrikes. He joins us to talk about what it revealed: a deeply unserious administration where war, trade, and global diplomacy are being handled like a lad’s WhatsApp group. We break down the chaos, the consequences for Ireland and Europe, and why standing up to this kind of performative thuggery might be the only option left.</p><p>And by the way you can get $20 off a digital sub to <em>The Atlantic</em> at <a href="http://theatlantic.com/dmwpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">theatlantic.com/dmwpod</a>.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>