Nate and Elise discuss how many hobbyists are lying to themselves about what their hobby is without even knowing it.See full show notes at: https://www.oldcameranewfilm.com/podcast/2-the-camera-trapVoice recording of Ansel Adams used with permission of the Ansel Adams Publishing Rights Trust. See Roy Firestone’s full interview with Ansel Adams at http://anseladams.com/roy-firestone-interviews-ansel-adams/. Other notable Ansel Adams websites: www.anseladamsbooks.com, https://ccp.arizona.edu/artists/ansel-adams. You can follow the official Ansel Adams Instagram channel @anseladams.