This episode originally aired November 17, 2025 on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/knowyourenemy">Patreon</a> — we're unlocking it as a holiday treat. If there's a Trump-era topic that manages to fascinate without being entirely depressing, it's probably the ongoing arguments about architecture that his ascension has occasioned. Proponents of a RETVRN to the architectural ideals of ancient Greece and Rome are prominent in MAGA circles; partisans of a neo-classical revival populate government commissions, and their prescriptions find expression in various executive orders again. To understand who these people are, what their movement wants, and the kernel of truth in their grievances, we talked to architectural critic and proprietor of <a href="https://mcmansionhell.com/" target="_blank">McMansion Hell</a> Kate Wagner. We start by analyzing Trump's ballroom and the demolishing the East Wing of the White House — the perfect way into MAGA architecture and the mind of their Beautiful Builder himself, Donald J. Trump.Sources:Kate Wagner, "<a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/156509/donald-trump-war-on-architecture" target="_blank">Duncing About Architecture</a>," New Republic, Feb 8, 2020— "<a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/trump-architecture-culture-wars-traditional-aesthetics/#" target="_blank">Trump Will Not Make Architecture Great Again</a>," The Nation, Jan 7, 2025— "<a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/aesthetics-trump-traditional-tariffs-architecture/" target="_blank">The Real Problem With Trump’s Cheesy Neoclassical Building Fetish</a>," Feb 12, 2025— "<a href="https://www.late-review.com/p/what-the-fuck-are-we-doing-anymore" target="_blank">what the fuck are we doing anymore</a>," The Late Review, Jan 9, 2025.— "<a href="https://nyra.nyc/articles/wrecking-ballroom">Wrecking Ballroom</a>," The New York Review of Architecture, Dec 17, 2025.Charlie Nash, "<a href="https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/trump-admits-he-couldve-built-ballroom-without-destroying-the-east-wing-but-it-looked-like-hell/" target="_blank">Trump Admits He Could've Built Ballroom Without Destroying the East Wing, But 'It Looked Like Hell</a>,'" Mediate, Nov 10, 2025Jonathan Edwards & Dan Diamond, "<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/12/04/trump-ballroom-architect-east-wing/">Trump hires new White House ballroom architect</a>," WaPo, Dec 4, 2025. ...and don't forget to subscribe to <a href="https://www.patreon.com/knowyourenemy">Know Your Enemy on Patreon</a> for access to all of our bonus episodes!

<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;strong&gt;This episode originally aired November 17, 2025 on &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/knowyourenemy"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Patreon&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;strong&gt; — we're unlocking it as a holiday treat. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If there's a Trump-era topic that manages to fascinate without being entirely depressing, it's probably the ongoing arguments about architecture that his ascension has occasioned. Proponents of a RETVRN to the architectural ideals of ancient Greece and Rome are prominent in MAGA circles; partisans of a neo-classical revival populate government commissions, and their prescriptions find expression in various executive orders again. To understand who these people are, what their movement wants, and the kernel of truth in their grievances, we talked to architectural critic and proprietor of &lt;a href="https://mcmansionhell.com/" target="_blank"&gt;McMansion Hell&lt;/a&gt; Kate Wagner. We start by analyzing Trump's ballroom and the demolishing the East Wing of the White House — the perfect way into MAGA architecture and the mind of their Beautiful Builder himself, Donald J. Trump.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Sources:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Kate Wagner, "&lt;a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/156509/donald-trump-war-on-architecture" target="_blank"&gt;Duncing About Architecture&lt;/a&gt;," &lt;i&gt;New Republic&lt;/i&gt;, Feb 8, 2020&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;— "&lt;a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/trump-architecture-culture-wars-traditional-aesthetics/#" target="_blank"&gt;Trump Will Not Make Architecture Great Again&lt;/a&gt;," &lt;i&gt;The Nation&lt;/i&gt;, Jan 7, 2025&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;— "&lt;a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/aesthetics-trump-traditional-tariffs-architecture/" target="_blank"&gt;The Real Problem With Trump’s Cheesy Neoclassical Building Fetish&lt;/a&gt;," Feb 12, 2025&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;— "&lt;a href="https://www.late-review.com/p/what-the-fuck-are-we-doing-anymore" target="_blank"&gt;what the fuck are we doing anymore&lt;/a&gt;," The Late Review, Jan 9, 2025.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;— "&lt;a href="https://nyra.nyc/articles/wrecking-ballroom"&gt;Wrecking Ballroom&lt;/a&gt;," The New York Review of Architecture, Dec 17, 2025.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Charlie Nash, "&lt;a href="https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/trump-admits-he-couldve-built-ballroom-without-destroying-the-east-wing-but-it-looked-like-hell/" target="_blank"&gt;Trump Admits He Could've Built Ballroom Without Destroying the East Wing, But 'It Looked Like Hell&lt;/a&gt;,'" &lt;i&gt;Mediate&lt;/i&gt;, Nov 10, 2025&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jonathan Edwards &amp; Dan Diamond, "&lt;a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/12/04/trump-ballroom-architect-east-wing/"&gt;Trump hires new White House ballroom architect&lt;/a&gt;," WaPo, Dec 4, 2025. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;...and don't forget to subscribe to &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/knowyourenemy"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Know Your Enemy on Patreon&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt; for access to all of our bonus episodes!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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We're unpaywalling our excellent conversation with Kate Wagner (of McMansion Hell) about Trump's White House ballroom project and the politics of architecture. 

UNLOCKED: Trump's Big, Beautiful Ballroom (w/ Kate Wagner)

Listen to the rest of this premium episode by subscribing at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/107982813?utm_campaign=postshare_creator">patreon.com/knowyourenemy.</a>As the end of the year approaches, we wanted to look back at another year of trying to understand the American right—what we got wrong, what we got right, and what to expect in 2026. The conversation begins with the cracks showing in Trump's coalition, his plummeting approval ratings, and the possibility that Charlie Kirk really was helping hold the marriage of MAGA and the GOP together, then consider if we should have seen this coming (or not) and what it might say about our understanding of Trump, Vance, Kirk, Musk, and others we've considered on KYE in 2025.Sources:Christopher Flavelle, "<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/07/us/politics/biden-immigration-trump.html">How Biden Ignored Warnings and Lost Americans’ Faith in Immigration</a>," New York Times, Dec 7, 2025Bilal Baydoun, "<a href="https://rooseveltinstitute.org/blog/what-musks-doge-really-cut-trust-safety-and-democracy/">What Musk's DOGE Really Cut: Trust, Safety, and Democracy</a>," Roosevelt Institute, May 29, 2025Jake Tapper & Alex Thompson, <a href="https://sites.prh.com/originalsin/">Original Sin: President Biden's Decline, Its Cover-up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again</a> (2025)"<a href="https://www.econtalk.org/jill-lepore-on-nationalism-populism-and-the-state-of-america/">Jill Lepore on Nationalism, Populism, and the State of America</a>," EconTalk, April 15, 2019Ryan Burge, "<a href="https://religionunplugged.com/news/2023/7/3/religion-has-become-a-luxury-good-for-the-middle-class-married-college-graduate-with-children">Religion Has Become A Luxury Good For The Middle Class, Married College Graduate With Children</a>," ReligionUnplugged, July 12, 2023Matt Dinan, "<a href="https://mattdinan.substack.com/p/the-ai-skeptical-professors-guide">Permission Structures: How AI-skeptic Professors Can Still Help Students Write Papers</a>," Prefaces, Dec 10, 2025

<description>&lt;p&gt;Listen to the rest of this premium episode by subscribing at &lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/107982813?utm_campaign=postshare_creator"&gt;patreon.com/knowyourenemy.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As the end of the year approaches, we wanted to look back at another year of trying to understand the American right—what we got wrong, what we got right, and what to expect in 2026. The conversation begins with the cracks showing in Trump's coalition, his plummeting approval ratings, and the possibility that Charlie Kirk really was helping hold the marriage of MAGA and the GOP together, then consider if we should have seen this coming (or not) and what it might say about our understanding of Trump, Vance, Kirk, Musk, and others we've considered on KYE in 2025.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Sources:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Christopher Flavelle, "&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/07/us/politics/biden-immigration-trump.html"&gt;How Biden Ignored Warnings and Lost Americans’ Faith in Immigration&lt;/a&gt;," &lt;i&gt;New York Times&lt;/i&gt;, Dec 7, 2025&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bilal Baydoun, "&lt;a href="https://rooseveltinstitute.org/blog/what-musks-doge-really-cut-trust-safety-and-democracy/"&gt;What Musk's DOGE Really Cut: Trust, Safety, and Democracy&lt;/a&gt;," Roosevelt Institute, May 29, 2025&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jake Tapper &amp; Alex Thompson, &lt;a href="https://sites.prh.com/originalsin/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Original Sin: President Biden's Decline, Its Cover-up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;(2025)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"&lt;a href="https://www.econtalk.org/jill-lepore-on-nationalism-populism-and-the-state-of-america/"&gt;Jill Lepore on Nationalism, Populism, and the State of America&lt;/a&gt;," &lt;i&gt;EconTalk&lt;/i&gt;, April 15, 2019&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ryan Burge, "&lt;a href="https://religionunplugged.com/news/2023/7/3/religion-has-become-a-luxury-good-for-the-middle-class-married-college-graduate-with-children"&gt;Religion Has Become A Luxury Good For The Middle Class, Married College Graduate With Children&lt;/a&gt;," &lt;i&gt;ReligionUnplugged&lt;/i&gt;, July 12, 2023&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Matt Dinan, "&lt;a href="https://mattdinan.substack.com/p/the-ai-skeptical-professors-guide"&gt;Permission Structures: How AI-skeptic Professors Can Still Help Students Write Papers&lt;/a&gt;," &lt;i&gt;Prefaces&lt;/i&gt;, Dec 10, 2025&lt;/p&gt;
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Matt and Sam look back at the American right in 2025—and offer predictions about the year ahead.

What We Got Wrong (and Right) about the Right in 2025 [Teaser]

Given the not-terribly-uplifting streak of episodes we've had lately, we thought it was time for a Know Your Enemy movie night, and were joined by the podcast's intrepid producer, Jesse Brenneman, for a conversation about Paul Thomas Anderson's 2025 film, One Battle After Another. Its tagline—"When their evil enemy resurfaces after 16 years, a group of ex-revolutionaries reunite to rescue the daughter of one of their own"—suggests why all three of us absolutely loved it. We discuss: the film's relationship to the contemporary United States, and what it might reveal about our political situation; how it portrays both the left and the right; the family drama at the heart of the film, and the connection between origin and identity, personally and politically; the way Ronald Reagan haunts a surprising number of its scenes; and more! Spoiler alert: we offer a quick plot summary for those who haven't (yet!) seen One Battle After Another, but that does mean certain surprises will be spoiled for you.Sources:Sam Adler-Bell, "<a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/one-battle-after-another-american-assassination-culture.html">The Fantasy of Assassination Culture</a>," New York Magazine, Nov 1, 2025Armond White, "<a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/09/there-will-be-bloodlust-in-one-battle-after-another/">There Will Be Bloodlust in One Battle After Another</a>," National Review, Sept 26, 2025Richard Brody, "<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-front-row/the-real-battle-of-one-battle-after-another">The Real Battle of 'One Battle After Another</a>,'" New Yorker, Oct 7, 2025...and don't forget to subscribe to <a href="https://www.patreon.com/knowyourenemy">Know Your Enemy on Patreon</a> for access to all of our bonus episodes!

<description>&lt;p&gt;Given the not-terribly-uplifting streak of episodes we've had lately, we thought it was time for a Know Your Enemy movie night, and were joined by the podcast's intrepid producer, Jesse Brenneman, for a conversation about Paul Thomas Anderson's 2025 film, &lt;i&gt;One Battle After Another&lt;/i&gt;. Its tagline—"When their evil enemy resurfaces after 16 years, a group of ex-revolutionaries reunite to rescue the daughter of one of their own"—suggests why all three of us absolutely loved it. We discuss: the film's relationship to the contemporary United States, and what it might reveal about our political situation; how it portrays both the left and the right; the family drama at the heart of the film, and the connection between origin and identity, personally and politically; the way Ronald Reagan haunts a surprising number of its scenes; and more! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Spoiler alert: we offer a quick plot summary for those who haven't (yet!) seen &lt;i&gt;One Battle After Another&lt;/i&gt;, but that does mean certain surprises will be spoiled for you.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Sources:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sam Adler-Bell, "&lt;a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/one-battle-after-another-american-assassination-culture.html"&gt;The Fantasy of Assassination Culture&lt;/a&gt;," &lt;i&gt;New York Magazine&lt;/i&gt;, Nov 1, 2025&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Armond White, "&lt;a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/09/there-will-be-bloodlust-in-one-battle-after-another/"&gt;There Will Be Bloodlust in &lt;i&gt;One Battle After Another&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;," &lt;i&gt;National Review&lt;/i&gt;, Sept 26, 2025&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Richard Brody, "&lt;a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-front-row/the-real-battle-of-one-battle-after-another"&gt;The Real Battle of 'One Battle After Another&lt;/a&gt;,'" &lt;i&gt;New Yorker&lt;/i&gt;, Oct 7, 2025&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;...and don't forget to subscribe to &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/knowyourenemy"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Know Your Enemy on Patreon&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt; for access to all of our bonus episodes!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Matt and Sam are joined by KYE's intrepid producer, Jesse Brenneman, to discuss the recent film, One Battle After Another.

One Podcast After Another (w/ Jesse Brenneman)

Listen to the rest of this premium episode by subscribing at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/107982813?utm_campaign=postshare_creator">patreon.com/knowyourenemy.</a>Should you try to improve your friends or leave them be? Do friendship and politics mix? Is friendship about virtue or delight? In 2023, we were interviewed by Andrew Elrick, now a professor at Marist University, for a documentary podcast he was making about men and friendship. (Two of our favorite topics!) That podcast never came to fruition, but Andy was kind enough to share this audio with us, and now we're sharing it with you: a conversation about friendship — Matt and Sam's in particular — politics, and podcasting. Enjoy!Further Reading:Aristotle, <a href="https://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/nicomachaen.html" target="_blank">Nicomachean Ethics</a>, (350 BCE)  Michel de Montaigne , “<a href="https://hyperessays.net/essays/on-friendship/" target="_blank">On Friendship</a>” from The Essays of Michel de Montaigne (1580) Judith Shklar, “<a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300214994/on-political-obligation/" target="_blank">On Political Obligation</a>,” (2019)Allan Bloom, <a href="https://www.abebooks.com/9780671673369/Love-Friendship-Allan-Bloom-067167336X/plp" target="_blank">Love and Friendship</a> (1993)  Michael Oakeshott,  “<a href="https://wp.aleteia.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/02/on_being_conservative.pdf" target="_blank">On Being Conservative</a>,” (1956)Dewey, <a href="https://cup.columbia.edu/book/democracy-and-education/9780231210119/" target="_blank">Democracy and Education</a> (1916)Andrew Elrick, "<a href="https://andyelrick.substack.com/p/a-genius-for-friendship" target="_blank">Friendship is a Dangerous Thing,</a>" Game Stories, Nov 9, 2025.

<description>&lt;p&gt;Listen to the rest of this premium episode by subscribing at &lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/107982813?utm_campaign=postshare_creator"&gt;patreon.com/knowyourenemy.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Should you try to improve your friends or leave them be? Do friendship and politics mix? Is friendship about virtue or delight? In 2023, we were interviewed by Andrew Elrick, now a professor at Marist University, for a documentary podcast he was making about &lt;strong&gt;men &lt;/strong&gt;and&lt;strong&gt; friendship&lt;/strong&gt;. (Two of our favorite topics!) That podcast never came to fruition, but Andy was kind enough to share this audio with us, and now we're sharing it with you: a conversation about friendship — Matt and Sam's in particular — politics, and podcasting. Enjoy!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Further Reading:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Aristotle&lt;i&gt;, &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="https://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/nicomachaen.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Nicomachean Ethics&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;,&lt;/i&gt; (350 BCE)  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Michel de Montaigne , “&lt;a href="https://hyperessays.net/essays/on-friendship/" target="_blank"&gt;On Friendship&lt;/a&gt;” from &lt;i&gt;The Essays of Michel de Montaigne &lt;/i&gt;(1580) &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Judith Shklar, “&lt;a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300214994/on-political-obligation/" target="_blank"&gt;On Political Obligation&lt;/a&gt;,” (2019)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Allan Bloom, &lt;a href="https://www.abebooks.com/9780671673369/Love-Friendship-Allan-Bloom-067167336X/plp" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Love and Friendship&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;(1993)  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Michael Oakeshott,  “&lt;a href="https://wp.aleteia.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/02/on_being_conservative.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;On Being Conservative&lt;/a&gt;,” (1956)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dewey, &lt;a href="https://cup.columbia.edu/book/democracy-and-education/9780231210119/" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Democracy and Education&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (1916)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Andrew Elrick, "&lt;a href="https://andyelrick.substack.com/p/a-genius-for-friendship" target="_blank"&gt;Friendship is a Dangerous Thing,&lt;/a&gt;" Game Stories, Nov 9, 2025.&lt;/p&gt;
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Andrew Elrick interviews Matt and Sam about friendship and politics, conservative views of friendship, and how friendship shapes their podcast. 

On Friendship (w/ Andy Elrick)

Laura K. Field's <a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691255262/furious-minds?srsltid=AfmBOoo-r7SOZaW2FHnmgy0k1VNHmckDW4PoIz4Xd3C7Yi30f3kf1wnF">Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right</a>, published earlier this month, is a book we simply had to discuss. Listeners to this podcast will recognize its cast of characters—conservative intellectuals like Patrick Deneen, Michael Anton, John Eastman, Adrian Vermeule, and Harry Jaffa, among others—whose ideas and influence Field carefully categorizes and evaluates, bringing order to an unruly decade of intellectual history. Topics include: Leo Strauss and the problem of great teachers; the use and abuse of grand narratives by the right; how the Claremonters went all in on Trump; the permission given by postliberals to some of the nastiest impulses on the right; and more!Sources:Laura K. Field, <a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691255262/furious-minds?srsltid=AfmBOoo-r7SOZaW2FHnmgy0k1VNHmckDW4PoIz4Xd3C7Yi30f3kf1wnF">Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right</a> (2025)— "<a href="https://www.niskanencenter.org/revisiting-why-liberalism-failed-a-five-part-series/">Revisiting Why Liberalism Failed: A Five-Part Series</a>," Niskanen Center, Dec 21, 2020Patrick Deneen, <a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/2019/02/20/why-liberalism-failed/">Why Liberalism Failed</a> (2018)— <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/618154/regime-change-by-patrick-j-deneen/">Regime Change: Toward a Postliberal Future</a> (2023)Matthew Sitman, "<a href="https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/liberalism-and-catholic-left">Liberalism and the Catholic Left</a>," Commonweal, Dec 3, 2018Publius Decius Mus/Michael Anton, "<a href="https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/digital/the-flight-93-election/">The Flight 93 Election</a>," Claremont Review of Books, Sept 5, 2016Adrian Vermeule, "<a href="https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2018/02/integration-from-within/">Integration from Within</a>," American Affairs, Spring 2018The Editors, "<a href="https://americanmind.org/salvo/the-fight-is-now/">The Fight is Now</a>," The American Mind, Nov 5, 2020Anemona Hartocollis, "<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/08/us/politics/political-divide-on-campuses-hardens-after-trumps-victory.html">On Campus, Trump Fans Say They Need 'Safe Spaces</a>,'" New York Times, Dec 8, 2016Further Listening: KYE: "<a href="https://know-your-enemy-1682b684.simplecast.com/episodes/rise-of-the-illiberal-right" target="_blank">Rise of the Illiberal Right</a>," July 12, 2019. KYE: "<a href="https://know-your-enemy-1682b684.simplecast.com/episodes/unlocked-midnight-in-the-garden-of-american-heroes" target="_blank">Midnight in the Garden of American Heroes (On West Coast Straussians)</a>," Feb 11, 2021. KYE: "<a href="https://know-your-enemy-1682b684.simplecast.com/episodes/unraveling-allan-bloom-and-saul-bellow-0qFkAwcT" target="_blank">Unraveling Allan Bloom and Saul Bellow</a>," June 21, 2021. KYE: "<a href="https://know-your-enemy-1682b684.simplecast.com/episodes/the-afterlife-of-january-6th-arCakhuF" target="_blank">The Afterlife of January 6</a>," July 19, 2021....and don't forget to subscribe to <a href="https://www.patreon.com/knowyourenemy">Know Your Enemy on Patreon</a> for access to all of our bonus episodes!

<description>&lt;p&gt;Laura K. Field's &lt;a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691255262/furious-minds?srsltid=AfmBOoo-r7SOZaW2FHnmgy0k1VNHmckDW4PoIz4Xd3C7Yi30f3kf1wnF"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, published earlier this month, is a book we simply had to discuss. Listeners to this podcast will recognize its cast of characters—conservative intellectuals like Patrick Deneen, Michael Anton, John Eastman, Adrian Vermeule, and Harry Jaffa, among others—whose ideas and influence Field carefully categorizes and evaluates, bringing order to an unruly decade of intellectual history. Topics include: Leo Strauss and the problem of great teachers; the use and abuse of grand narratives by the right; how the Claremonters went all in on Trump; the permission given by postliberals to some of the nastiest impulses on the right; and more!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Sources:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Laura K. Field, &lt;a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691255262/furious-minds?srsltid=AfmBOoo-r7SOZaW2FHnmgy0k1VNHmckDW4PoIz4Xd3C7Yi30f3kf1wnF"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (2025)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;— "&lt;a href="https://www.niskanencenter.org/revisiting-why-liberalism-failed-a-five-part-series/"&gt;Revisiting &lt;i&gt;Why Liberalism Failed&lt;/i&gt;: A Five-Part Series&lt;/a&gt;," Niskanen Center, Dec 21, 2020&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Patrick Deneen, &lt;a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/2019/02/20/why-liberalism-failed/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Why Liberalism Failed&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (2018)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;— &lt;a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/618154/regime-change-by-patrick-j-deneen/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Regime Change: Toward a Postliberal Future&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (2023)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Matthew Sitman, "&lt;a href="https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/liberalism-and-catholic-left"&gt;Liberalism and the Catholic Left&lt;/a&gt;," &lt;i&gt;Commonweal&lt;/i&gt;, Dec 3, 2018&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Publius Decius Mus/Michael Anton, "&lt;a href="https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/digital/the-flight-93-election/"&gt;The Flight 93 Election&lt;/a&gt;," &lt;i&gt;Claremont Review of Books&lt;/i&gt;, Sept 5, 2016&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Adrian Vermeule, "&lt;a href="https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2018/02/integration-from-within/"&gt;Integration from Within&lt;/a&gt;," &lt;i&gt;American Affairs&lt;/i&gt;, Spring 2018&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Editors, "&lt;a href="https://americanmind.org/salvo/the-fight-is-now/"&gt;The Fight is Now&lt;/a&gt;," &lt;i&gt;The American Mind&lt;/i&gt;, Nov 5, 2020&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anemona Hartocollis, "&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/08/us/politics/political-divide-on-campuses-hardens-after-trumps-victory.html"&gt;On Campus, Trump Fans Say They Need 'Safe Spaces&lt;/a&gt;,'" &lt;i&gt;New York Times&lt;/i&gt;, Dec 8, 2016&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Further Listening: &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;KYE: "&lt;a href="https://know-your-enemy-1682b684.simplecast.com/episodes/rise-of-the-illiberal-right" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Rise of the Illiberal Right&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;," July 12, 2019. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;KYE: "&lt;a href="https://know-your-enemy-1682b684.simplecast.com/episodes/unlocked-midnight-in-the-garden-of-american-heroes" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Midnight in the Garden of American Heroes (On West Coast Straussians)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;," Feb 11, 2021. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;KYE: "&lt;a href="https://know-your-enemy-1682b684.simplecast.com/episodes/unraveling-allan-bloom-and-saul-bellow-0qFkAwcT" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Unraveling Allan Bloom and Saul Bellow&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;," June 21, 2021. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;KYE: "&lt;a href="https://know-your-enemy-1682b684.simplecast.com/episodes/the-afterlife-of-january-6th-arCakhuF" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Afterlife of January 6&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;," July 19, 2021.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;...and don't forget to subscribe to &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/knowyourenemy"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Know Your Enemy on Patreon&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt; for access to all of our bonus episodes!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Matt and Sam talk to Laura Field about her new book, Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right.

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