<p>A Side B Collective is taking over the podcast! Josh wrote a piece for the Collective titled "The Case for Civil Marriage in Celibate Partnerships". Chase and Shelby, from A Side B Collective, interview him as a follow up to the written piece. BEFORE YOU LISTEN, please read the piece at <a href='https://open.substack.com/pub/asidebcollective/p/the-case-for-civil-marriage-in-celibate?r=280c74&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web'>asidebcollective.substack.com</a>. </p>