From the dual perspectives of Certified Counselor/Life Coach, Kim Anderson, & Functional Nutrition/Fitness Trainer, Lori Zabka, your hosts help women identify and break up with the patterns that have held them back so they can reach their fullest potential, ... "because life is too short to stay stuck" What kind of society makes being healthy and happy so difficult that only a single-digit percentage of the population can hope to pull it off? The answer: a sick society. And what does it mean to be one of the few people to buck societal norms and beat those unhealthy odds? According to Pilar Gerasimo, it means becoming a deviant….a "Healthy Deviant," to be exact, and in this interview, Pilar lays out exactly how become a rule breaker by acknowledging a disturbing truth: if you aren't breaking the rules, you're probably breaking yourself." If you often find yourself overwhelmed, burned out, depleted, or depressed; if you wonder what's wrong with you, the answer is: nothing! You are simply living in a society where illness, anxiety, and depletion are the prevailing norms. Want to learn a better way? Want to become a "Healthy Deviant?" Take a listen to this amazing conversation with award-winning health journalist, Pilar Gerasimo. To learn more about your hosts visit: Kim Anderson at kimanderson.life or Lori Zabka at lifebyloriz.com