In this quick episode, Will Ruch, CEO of Versant Solutions, interviews Tony Pellicano. Tony shares the leadership principles that shaped his tenure as CHRO at Catholic Health. He talks about why empathy became his anchor, how involving employees transforms outcomes, and what it really takes to communicate tough decisions with clarity and respect. Tony also looks ahead at the future of HR and the impact of AI and reminding us that strong relationships and a human touch will always matter most. A fast, thoughtful listen with insights you can put to work right away.