Giuseppe Castellano talks to Caldecott Honor-winning children’s book illustrator and author, Brian Lies, about what “broccoli books” are, and why he’s not a fan; how he did and didn’t get the Caldecott call; what it means to be driving, not driven; and more.To learn more about Brian, visit brianlies.com.Artists mentioned in this episode include:  Oge Mora, Harry Devlin, N.C. Wyeth, Helen Oxenbury, John Burningham, Randolph Caldecott, Ed Young If you find value in this podcast, consider supporting it via Substack or Patreon. / This podcast is produced by IllustrationDept.com—a global leader in online education for illustrators. / The music for this podcast was created by Oatmello.If you have any questions or comments about the podcast, you can email Giuseppe.