Bret Weintein debates Jonathan Pageau with Jordan Hall on whether science or religion can save humanity from itself.Find Jonathan Pageau at https://www.thesymbolicworld.com and on x at https://x.com/PageauJonathan Bret thanks Redeemer Anglican Church for loaning them the space to do this podcast.*****Sponsors:Fresh-Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to http://www.GetFreshDarkHorse.com to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping.*****Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.comCheck out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://www.darkhorsestore.orgTheme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.*****Mentioned in this episode:Ancient Wisdom, Modern World: Bret Speaks with Jonathan Pageau https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NYz1DJ4ByMSupport the show