<p>We are joined by Torben Søndergaard for a conversation about obedience and surrender to Jesus, and what it practically means to make disciples. How do you begin discipling new believers while also managing work and family life? We talk about the tension between calling and capacity, and how we can follow Jesus in a way that is sustainable over time.</p><p>This episode is the prime cut of a conversation lasting over 1.5 hours, edited down to just over 1 hour. Enjoy.</p><p><br></p>