In this episode, Jordan talks with Leland Brown about his new book 'The First Pastors'. They explore the historical context of pastoral ministry in the early church, the evolution of pastoral roles, and the significance of virtue and gentleness in leadership. Leland shares insights from his research on early church figures and the importance of ecclesiological structures, while also addressing the challenges faced by modern pastors.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest01:52 Leland Brown's Background and Church Role02:47 Inspiration Behind 'The First Pastors' Book06:07 Understanding Pastoral Terminology in Early Church09:28 Development of the Term 'Pastor' Over Time11:05 Influential Figures in Early Pastoral Leadership13:29 Critique of Gregory the Great's Influence15:03 Ecclesiological Structures in Early Christianity17:32 The Role of Plurality in Church Leadership19:08 Gentleness and Authority in Pastoral Ministry23:19 Cyril of Alexandria as a Counterexample25:55 Distinguishing Humility and Gentleness27:02 Scripture vs. Tradition in Early Pastoral Understanding29:49 Key Insights for Modern Pastoral Ministry32:17 The Importance of Suffering in Pastoral Leadership34:03 Authority and Membership in the Church34:56 Advice for Publishing a DissertationSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-london-lyceum4672/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy