In the first of a series of special edition Until Saturday episodes, Damien Harris chats with college football figures about changes, trends, and fascinating topics in the sport. Damien's former New England Patriots teammate and ex-Wisconsin Badger, James White, joins today's podcast to answer: 'Why haven't we seen a running back Heisman since Derrick Henry?" Damien and James share hilarious and insightful tales from their time with Henry and Melvin Gordon, respectively. What traits did those two have in college that apply to Cam Ward, Ashton Jeanty and other Heisman hopefuls this season? How good is Jeanty, really, and what will it take for another RB to win the Heisman? Plus, why is the NFL treating RBs poorly?

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