<p>A collaboration with American Public Media’s Call to Mind, highlighting how Durham, North Carolina, has reimagined its mental health crisis response system — and what it has learned.</p><br><p>Find more reporting on mental health from Call to Mind <a href="https://www.calltomindnow.org/broadcast-specials" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on their website</a>, on your local public radio station, or by <a href="https://link.podtrac.com/KsTsulRh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">subscribing to the Call to Mind podcast</a>.</p><br><p>Guests:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.durhamnc.gov/directory.aspx?EID=1247" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patrice Andrews</a>, Police Chief, Durham Police Department</li><li><a href="https://www.durhamnc.gov/directory.aspx?EID=1302" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ryan Smith</a>, Director, Durham Community Safety Department</li><li><a href="https://www.durhamnc.gov/directory.aspx?EID=738" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sgt. Dan Leeder</a>, Durham Police Department</li><li><a href="https://www.durhamnc.gov/directory.aspx?EID=1316" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Abena Bediako</a>, Clinical Manager, Durham Community Safety Department</li><li><a href="https://davidaprater.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">David Prater</a>, Peer Support Specialist, Durham Community Safety Department</li><li>Yolanda, Durham resident</li><li><a href="https://alliancearchitecture.com/who-we-are/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">John Warasila</a>, Real estate developer and architect, Alliance Architecture</li><li><a href="https://www.durhamnc.gov/directory.aspx?EID=85" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bo Ferguson</a>, City Manager, Durham</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Learn more and read a full transcript <a href="https://tradeoffs.org/2026/05/07/call-to-mind-the-fifth-branch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on our website</a>.</p><br><p>Want more Tradeoffs? Sign up for our free <a href="https://tradeoffs.us3.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=6ab1fc39a0b1b15521551487c&id=89c5edcb93&utm_source=twitter-newsletter-signup&utm_medium=twitter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">weekly newsletter</a> featuring our latest reporting on health care's toughest choices. </p><br><p><a href="https://tradeoffs.fundjournalism.org/donate/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Donate to support our work.</a> Tradeoffs is a nonprofit, powered by listeners.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>