<p>The White House wants states to drop certificate of need laws in hopes of lowering health care costs. Researchers and state leaders are split.</p><br><p>Guests:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.gertie.nyc/about" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nate Adler</a>, founder, Gertie</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-mitchell-1536b8b/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Matthew Mitchell</a>, senior fellow, Fraser Institute; senior affiliated scholar, Mercatus Center at George Mason University</li><li><a href="https://www.law.northwestern.edu/faculty/profiles/jillhorwitz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jill Horwitz</a>, professor, Northwestern University Pritzker School of Law and Feinberg School of Medicine</li><li><a href="https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/LegislatorInfo/Member?district=S11&amp;ga=114" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bo Watson</a>, Tennessee state senator</li><li><a href="https://legislature.vermont.gov/people/single/2026/34710" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Alyssa Black</a>, Vermont state representative</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-cooper-5b55b61/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amy Cooper,</a> founder, board president Green Mountain Surgery Center</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Learn more and read a full transcript on <a href="https://tradeoffs.org/2026/04/09/high-health-care-costs-are-fueling-a-new-fight-over-old-laws" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">our website</a>.</p><br><p>Want more Tradeoffs? Sign up for our free <a href="https://tradeoffs.us3.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=6ab1fc39a0b1b15521551487c&amp;id=89c5edcb93&amp;utm_source=twitter-newsletter-signup&amp;utm_medium=twitter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">weekly newsletter</a> featuring the latest health policy research and news.</p><br><p>Support this type of journalism today, <a href="https://tradeoffs.org/donate" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">with a gift</a>.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>