The great books have never been more accessible, yet we live in a moment increasingly drawn away from them. Their value and transformative power are immediate, but many lack the patience and desire to become truly acquainted with the great minds of antiquity. In this installment of the Career and Life Conversation series, Dr Spencer Klavan joins Ralston College Fellow Connor Livingston for a discussion on the utility of the classics, the confluence of religion and philosophy, and the role of embodiment in human reason, along with what this reveals about artificial intelligence. From Athens to Jerusalem, from Plato to Paul, this exchange offers lofty reflections alongside practical insights for those seeking wisdom in an age that does not make it a priority. If you have found these conversations meaningful, please consider supporting our work at www.ralston.ac/donate. Subscribe for updates at: www.ralston.ac/subscribe Authors and Works Mentioned in this Episode: Athanasius's On the Incarnation C.S. Lewis Plato's Republic Aristotle's De Anima and Nicomachean Ethics Socrates St. Paul Augustine's Confessions Disputation of the Holy Sacrament by Raphael T.S. Eliot's The Four Quartets Dante Aquinas Shakespeare Sir Arthur Conan Doyle Owen Barfield