Last time we spoke to Leila from Village for Mama, she surprised us with a pregnancy announcement… little did she know that it would be her second set of twins! Today, she dives into life with 5 kids, pregnancy, birth, a supported postpartum and juggling multiple multiples! We chat about… How the 20-week scan revealed Leila’s second set of twins and shocked everyone The different decision making process for round 2 Finding and selecting a live in au pair  The beauty of a larger age gap between siblings Guilt around your relationship with your older children when a new baby is born Leila’s birth story with the second set of twins… in two states… on Christmas Day!  The importance of temperament  What Leila set up to help support her going into a slow postpartum with 5 kids Maternity leave policies for multiples (they’re not great) Her idea to create a village and helping hand for those who needed it Is Leila’s family complete?   This episode is brought to you by WaterWipes™, the only baby wipes certified skin microbiome friendly by MyMicrobiome. Get yours at Coles or head to waterwipes.com Beyond the Bump is hosted by Jayde Couldwell (@londonxboston) and Sophie Pearce (@svpearce) Come say hey over on Instagram @beyondthebump.podcast TikTok @beyondthebumppodcast Facebook - Beyond the Bump Community Chats group  Sign up to our monthly newsletter here for BTS, recommendations, outfits and more. If you’d love to partner with the podcast, send us an episode idea or find out more, you can over here.  We couldn’t do this without you, Bumpies. If you’re liking what you’re hearing, we’d love it if you could send us to a mama mate or leave a 5 star review.