Let's know what you liked and learnt! In this timeless conversation from 2021, Kumar Vembu reflects on how enduring organisations are built—not through control, pedigree, or process-heavy management, but through deep trust in people and an uncompromising belief in ownership. Drawing from his own journey and the early days of Zoho, he explains why academic excellence is a poor proxy for professional excellence, and how responsibility—when given early—can transform individuals into high-performing contributors.This episode unpacks what it truly means to design for ownership at scale. From trusting people from day one, to creating decision-makers instead of escalators, Kumar shares practical, culture-defining principles that help close the education–work gap and build organisations where people don’t wait for permission—they take responsibility. This is a masterclass on leadership, culture, and long-term thinking.  5 Key TakeawaysTrust must come before performance:High-performing cultures are built by trusting people early—not after they’ve “proven” themselves.Academic success ≠ workplace effectiveness: Attitude, learning ability, empathy, and ownership matter far more than grades or fluency.Responsibility from day one accelerates growth: Treating people as professionals from their first day builds accountability faster than any training program.Ownership means solving problems, not escalating them: Mature organisations create decision-makers who bring recommendations, not just issues.Culture is shaped by daily signals, not slogans: Policies, feedback loops, retrospectives, and leadership behaviour quietly but powerfully define how people think and act.Listen to the full episode: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube🔗 Links & Resources:ContraMinds: https://www.contraminds.comSubscribe to our Newsletter: https://blog.contraminds.com🎧 Listen on Podcast Platforms:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4xceASphmwAjJONTlsvo2YApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/contraminds-decoding-people-minds-strategy-and-culture/id1485202972Follow ContraMinds:Twitter: https://twitter.com/contramindsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/contraminds/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/contramindsFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/contraminds