Charlie and Liz Fenwick (The Secret Shore) discuss the women cartographers who were fundamental in the Allies winning the Second World War and the way women at university at the time had to choose between their career and having a family. We also discuss Liz's love of Cornwall, her use of Dorothy Sayer's Gaudy Night, and we go back a few times to the people who were involved in the secret flotillas that preceded the Normandy landings. <a href= "http://wormhole.carnelianvalley.com/podcast/episode-100-liz-fenwick" target="_blank" rel="noopener">A transcript is available on my site</a> General references: My previous interview with Liz is episode 35 <a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@lizfenwickauthor/video/7334383049578237217" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Liz's TikTok plot walk on Frenchman's Creek</a> <a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001xdc5" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Woman's Hour episode including women's intuition</a> Books mentioned by name or extensively: Daphne Du Maurier: Frenchman's Creek Dorothy Sayers: Gaudy Night Ernie Pyle: The Best Of Ernie Pyle's World War II Dispatches Liz Fenwick: A Cornish Stranger Liz Fenwick: The Returning Tide Liz Fenwick: The Path To The Sea Liz Fenwick: The River Between Us Liz Fenwick: The Secret Shore Liz Fenwick: A Portrait Of You Buy the books: <a href= "https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/episode-100-liz-fenwick-the-secret-shore" target="_blank" rel="noopener">UK</a> || <a href= "https://bookshop.org/lists/episode-100-liz-fenwick-the-secret-shore" target="_blank" rel="noopener">USA</a> Release details: recorded 25th March 2024; published 24th June 2024 Where to find Liz online: <a href= "http://www.lizfenwick.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Website</a> || <a href="https://twitter.com/liz_fenwick" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Twitter</a> || <a href= "https://www.facebook.com/liz.fenwick.author" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Facebook</a> || <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/liz_fenwick" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Instagram</a> || <a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@lizfenwickauthor" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">TikTok</a> Where to find Charlie online: <a href= "https://wormholepodcast.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Website</a> || <a href= "https://twitter.com/carnelianvalley" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Twitter</a> || <a href= "https://instagram.com/charlieplacebooks" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Instagram</a> || <a href= "https://tiktok.com/@charlieplacebooks" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">TikTok</a> Discussions 01:45 You'd wanted to write about the secret flotillas for a long time? 02:58 Women's work in cartography in the Second World War 05:48 Furthering this discussion we go to Liz's character, Merry, or Dr Tremayne, and begin a discussion on what Liz left out of this book 09:42 More about Merry's work in the context of how a woman had to choose between a career and having a family, particularly in the context of Oxford University 16:06 Merry's mother, Elise, including her story in The Secret Shore 19:46 The romance in the book, including the love story 23:00 Liz's love and use in her novels of Frenchman's Creek, Cornwall 25:06 Ridifarne! 27:01 Is heart or head more important? 28:16 Liz's use of Dorothy Sayers' Gaudy Night and the character of Peter Wimsey 31:19 The real people in the book and how Liz made it all happen 33:38 All about Maurice Cohen and the mouse 35:22 The sacred wells in Cornwall 38:14 All about Liz's plot walks, which she releases to TikTok 41:03 Does it feel strange when you're not writing about Cornwall? 44:10 Liz's next book, A Portrait Of You Disclosure: If you buy books linked to my site, I may earn a commission from Bookshop.org, whose fees support independent bookshops

<description>&lt;p&gt;Charlie and Liz Fenwick (The Secret Shore) discuss the women cartographers who were fundamental in the Allies winning the Second World War and the way women at university at the time had to choose between their career and having a family. We also discuss Liz's love of Cornwall, her use of Dorothy Sayer's Gaudy Night, and we go back a few times to the people who were involved in the secret flotillas that preceded the Normandy landings.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "http://wormhole.carnelianvalley.com/podcast/episode-100-liz-fenwick" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;A transcript is available on my site&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;General references:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt; My previous interview with Liz is episode 35&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@lizfenwickauthor/video/7334383049578237217" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Liz's TikTok plot walk on Frenchman's Creek&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001xdc5" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;The Woman's Hour episode including women's intuition&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Books mentioned by name or extensively:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Daphne Du Maurier: Frenchman's Creek&lt;br /&gt; Dorothy Sayers: Gaudy Night&lt;br /&gt; Ernie Pyle: The Best Of Ernie Pyle's World War II Dispatches&lt;br /&gt; Liz Fenwick: A Cornish Stranger&lt;br /&gt; Liz Fenwick: The Returning Tide&lt;br /&gt; Liz Fenwick: The Path To The Sea&lt;br /&gt; Liz Fenwick: The River Between Us&lt;br /&gt; Liz Fenwick: The Secret Shore&lt;br /&gt; Liz Fenwick: A Portrait Of You&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Buy the books:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href= "https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/episode-100-liz-fenwick-the-secret-shore" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;UK&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://bookshop.org/lists/episode-100-liz-fenwick-the-secret-shore" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;USA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Release details:&lt;/strong&gt; recorded 25th March 2024; published 24th June 2024&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Where to find Liz online:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href= "http://www.lizfenwick.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/liz_fenwick" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://www.facebook.com/liz.fenwick.author" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://www.instagram.com/liz_fenwick" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@lizfenwickauthor" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;TikTok&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Where to find Charlie online:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href= "https://wormholepodcast.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/carnelianvalley" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://instagram.com/charlieplacebooks" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://tiktok.com/@charlieplacebooks" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;TikTok&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Discussions&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;01:45&lt;/strong&gt; You'd wanted to write about the secret flotillas for a long time?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;02:58&lt;/strong&gt; Women's work in cartography in the Second World War&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;05:48&lt;/strong&gt; Furthering this discussion we go to Liz's character, Merry, or Dr Tremayne, and begin a discussion on what Liz left out of this book&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;09:42&lt;/strong&gt; More about Merry's work in the context of how a woman had to choose between a career and having a family, particularly in the context of Oxford University&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;16:06&lt;/strong&gt; Merry's mother, Elise, including her story in The Secret Shore&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;19:46&lt;/strong&gt; The romance in the book, including the love story&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;23:00&lt;/strong&gt; Liz's love and use in her novels of Frenchman's Creek, Cornwall&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;25:06&lt;/strong&gt; Ridifarne!&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;27:01&lt;/strong&gt; Is heart or head more important?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;28:16&lt;/strong&gt; Liz's use of Dorothy Sayers' Gaudy Night and the character of Peter Wimsey&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;31:19&lt;/strong&gt; The real people in the book and how Liz made it all happen&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;33:38&lt;/strong&gt; All about Maurice Cohen and the mouse&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;35:22&lt;/strong&gt; The sacred wells in Cornwall&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;38:14&lt;/strong&gt; All about Liz's plot walks, which she releases to TikTok&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;41:03&lt;/strong&gt; Does it feel strange when you're not writing about Cornwall?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;44:10&lt;/strong&gt; Liz's next book, A Portrait Of You&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Disclosure:&lt;/strong&gt; If you buy books linked to my site, I may earn a commission from Bookshop.org, whose fees support independent bookshops&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Charlie and Liz Fenwick (The Secret Shore) discuss the women cartographers who were fundamental in the Allies winning the Second World War and the way women at university at the time had to choose between their career and having a family. We also...

100: Liz Fenwick (The Secret Shore)

Celebrating 100 episodes of this podcast, Charlie is joined by Gill Paul, Elizabeth Fremantle, Amanda Geard, and Maggie Brookes for a general bookish chat. We get all philosophical about genre, discuss film adaptations (Elizabeth’s Firebrand is out), whose books we wish we could have written, and best fan encounters. <a href= "http://wormhole.carnelianvalley.com/podcast/milestone-episode-01-elizabeth-fremantle-amanda-geard-gill-paul-maggie-brookes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">A transcript is available on my site</a> General references: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15000156" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Firebrand</a> - the UK release date it 14th June <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1276419" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">A Royal Affair</a> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11198330" target="_blank" rel="noopener">House Of The Dragon</a> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10048342" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Netflix's The Queen's Gambit</a> Amanda's interview with me on The Moon Gate is episode 84 <a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001p1m4" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Elizabeth's appearance on BBC Front Row</a> <a href= "https://www.irishtimes.com/property/interiors/2023/12/10/from-australia-to-kerry-we-were-bumbling-around-on-holiday-and-saw-this-derelict-house-for-sale" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Irish Times' article on Amanda's house (includes a photo of the room we discuss)</a> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111958" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Father Ted</a> <a href="https://hns2024.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Historical Novel Society 2024 Conference</a> Books mentioned by name or extensively: Amanda Geard: The Midnight House Amanda Geard: The Moon Gate Diana Gabaldon: Voyager Dodie Smith: I Capture The Castle Elizabeth Fremantle: Queen's Gambit Elizabeth Fremantle: Disobedient Elizabeth Fremantle: The Sinners (working title) Gill Paul: The Secret Wife Gill Paul: Another Woman's Husband Gill Paul: The Manhattan Girls Gill Paul: A Beautiful Rival Gill Paul: Scandalous Women Jenny Ashcroft: Echoes Of Love Kerry Fisher: The Secret Child Maggie Brookes: The Prisoner's Wife Maggie Brookes: Acts Of Love And War Maggie O'Farrell: I Am, I Am, I Am Paula McLain: The Paris Wife Walter Tevis: The Queen's Gambit Buy the books: <a href= "https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/milestone-episode-01-elizabeth-fremantle-amanda-geard-gill-paul-maggie-brookes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">UK</a> || <a href= "https://bookshop.org/lists/milestone-episode-01-elizabeth-fremantle-amanda-geard-gill-paul-maggie-brookes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">USA</a> Release details: Recorded 26th September 2023; published 26th February 2024 Where to find Elizabeth online: <a href= "https://www.elizabethfremantle.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Website</a> || <a href= "https://twitter.com/LizFremantle" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Twitter</a> || <a href= "https://www.facebook.com/ElizabethFremantleAuthor" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Facebook</a> || <a href= "http://instagram.com/lizfremantle" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Instagram</a> Where to find Amanda online: <a href= "https://www.amandageard.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Website</a> || <a href="http://twitter.com/amandageard" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Twitter</a> || <a href= "http://facebook.com/amandageardauthor" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Facebook</a> || <a href= "http://instagram.com/amandageard" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Instagram</a> Where to find Gill online: <a href= "http://gillpaul.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Website</a> || <a href="https://twitter.com/GillPaulAUTHOR" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Twitter</a> || <a href= "https://www.facebook.com/gill.paul.16" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Facebook</a> || <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/gill.paul1" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Instagram</a> || <a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@gillpaulauthor" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">TikTok</a> Where to find Maggie online: <a href= "https://www.maggiebrookes.uk" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Website</a> || <a href= "https://twitter.com/Maggie__Brookes" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Twitter</a> || <a href= "https://www.facebook.com/maggiebrookesnovelist" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Facebook</a> || <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/Maggie__Brookes" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Instagram</a> Where to find Charlie online: <a href= "https://wormholepodcast.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Website</a> || <a href= "https://twitter.com/carnelianvalley" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Twitter</a> || <a href= "https://instagram.com/charlieplacebooks" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Instagram</a> || <a href= "https://tiktok.com/@charlieplacebooks" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">TikTok</a> Discussions 02:36 What is historical fiction - what does it do, what it is for? 06:09 If you wrote in another genre, what would it be? 08:29 If your book was to be made into a film or TV show, who would you want cast in it? 13:03 Can you describe your latest book without talking about the plot at all? 15:47 If you could have written someone else's book, whose would you choose? 18:38 What's the weirdest thing anyone's said about one of your books? 22:43 What's the best reader or fan encounter you've had? 26:11 Have you ever been mistaken for another author? 28:55 What is the best interview you've had excluding this podcast? 32:53 What is the best writing advice you've ever been given? 37:27 Can you remember any particularly interesting fact that you discovered in research that you couldn't include in your book? 42:48 What bookish event are you looking forward to in the next couple of years? 45:52 What is everyone's next book? (Except Gill - she mentioned hers earlier.) Photo credit: Gill Paul, JP Masclet, Amanda Geard, Lyn Gregory Disclosure: If you buy books linked to my site, I may earn a commission from Bookshop.org, whose fees support independent bookshops

<description>&lt;p&gt;Celebrating 100 episodes of this podcast, Charlie is joined by Gill Paul, Elizabeth Fremantle, Amanda Geard, and Maggie Brookes for a general bookish chat. We get all philosophical about genre, discuss film adaptations (Elizabeth’s Firebrand is out), whose books we wish we could have written, and best fan encounters.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "http://wormhole.carnelianvalley.com/podcast/milestone-episode-01-elizabeth-fremantle-amanda-geard-gill-paul-maggie-brookes" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;A transcript is available on my site&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;General references:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15000156" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Firebrand&lt;/a&gt; - the UK release date it 14th June&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1276419" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;A Royal Affair&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11198330" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;House Of The Dragon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10048342" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Netflix's The Queen's Gambit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Amanda's interview with me on The Moon Gate is episode 84&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001p1m4" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Elizabeth's appearance on BBC Front Row&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.irishtimes.com/property/interiors/2023/12/10/from-australia-to-kerry-we-were-bumbling-around-on-holiday-and-saw-this-derelict-house-for-sale" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;The Irish Times' article on Amanda's house (includes a photo of the room we discuss)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111958" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Father Ted&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="https://hns2024.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;The Historical Novel Society 2024 Conference&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Books mentioned by name or extensively:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Amanda Geard: The Midnight House&lt;br /&gt; Amanda Geard: The Moon Gate&lt;br /&gt; Diana Gabaldon: Voyager&lt;br /&gt; Dodie Smith: I Capture The Castle&lt;br /&gt; Elizabeth Fremantle: Queen's Gambit&lt;br /&gt; Elizabeth Fremantle: Disobedient&lt;br /&gt; Elizabeth Fremantle: The Sinners (working title)&lt;br /&gt; Gill Paul: The Secret Wife&lt;br /&gt; Gill Paul: Another Woman's Husband&lt;br /&gt; Gill Paul: The Manhattan Girls&lt;br /&gt; Gill Paul: A Beautiful Rival&lt;br /&gt; Gill Paul: Scandalous Women&lt;br /&gt; Jenny Ashcroft: Echoes Of Love&lt;br /&gt; Kerry Fisher: The Secret Child&lt;br /&gt; Maggie Brookes: The Prisoner's Wife&lt;br /&gt; Maggie Brookes: Acts Of Love And War&lt;br /&gt; Maggie O'Farrell: I Am, I Am, I Am&lt;br /&gt; Paula McLain: The Paris Wife&lt;br /&gt; Walter Tevis: The Queen's Gambit&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Buy the books:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href= "https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/milestone-episode-01-elizabeth-fremantle-amanda-geard-gill-paul-maggie-brookes" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;UK&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://bookshop.org/lists/milestone-episode-01-elizabeth-fremantle-amanda-geard-gill-paul-maggie-brookes" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;USA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Release details:&lt;/strong&gt; Recorded 26th September 2023; published 26th February 2024&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Where to find Elizabeth online:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.elizabethfremantle.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/LizFremantle" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://www.facebook.com/ElizabethFremantleAuthor" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "http://instagram.com/lizfremantle" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Where to find Amanda online:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.amandageard.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/amandageard" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "http://facebook.com/amandageardauthor" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "http://instagram.com/amandageard" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Where to find Gill online:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href= "http://gillpaul.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/GillPaulAUTHOR" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://www.facebook.com/gill.paul.16" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://www.instagram.com/gill.paul1" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@gillpaulauthor" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;TikTok&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Where to find Maggie online:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.maggiebrookes.uk" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/Maggie__Brookes" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://www.facebook.com/maggiebrookesnovelist" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://www.instagram.com/Maggie__Brookes" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Where to find Charlie online:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href= "https://wormholepodcast.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/carnelianvalley" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://instagram.com/charlieplacebooks" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://tiktok.com/@charlieplacebooks" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;TikTok&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Discussions&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;02:36&lt;/strong&gt; What is historical fiction - what does it do, what it is for?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;06:09&lt;/strong&gt; If you wrote in another genre, what would it be?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;08:29&lt;/strong&gt; If your book was to be made into a film or TV show, who would you want cast in it?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;13:03&lt;/strong&gt; Can you describe your latest book without talking about the plot at all?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;15:47&lt;/strong&gt; If you could have written someone else's book, whose would you choose?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;18:38&lt;/strong&gt; What's the weirdest thing anyone's said about one of your books?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;22:43&lt;/strong&gt; What's the best reader or fan encounter you've had?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;26:11&lt;/strong&gt; Have you ever been mistaken for another author?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;28:55&lt;/strong&gt; What is the best interview you've had excluding this podcast?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;32:53&lt;/strong&gt; What is the best writing advice you've ever been given?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;37:27&lt;/strong&gt; Can you remember any particularly interesting fact that you discovered in research that you couldn't include in your book?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;42:48&lt;/strong&gt; What bookish event are you looking forward to in the next couple of years?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;45:52&lt;/strong&gt; What is everyone's next book? (Except Gill - she mentioned hers earlier.)&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Photo credit:&lt;/strong&gt; Gill Paul, JP Masclet, Amanda Geard, Lyn Gregory&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Disclosure:&lt;/strong&gt; If you buy books linked to my site, I may earn a commission from Bookshop.org, whose fees support independent bookshops&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Celebrating 100 episodes of this podcast, Charlie is joined by Gill Paul, Elizabeth Fremantle, Amanda Geard, and Maggie Brookes for a general bookish chat. We get all philosophical about genre, discuss film adaptations (Elizabeth’s Firebrand is...

Milestone 01: Elizabeth Fremantle, Amanda Geard, Gill Paul, Maggie Brookes

Charlie and Chịkọdịlị Emelụmadụ (Dazzling) discuss Igbo mythology, the differences between polygamy and monogamy in Igbo culture, and the social impacts of colonialism and military coups in Nigeria. Chịkọdịlị also talks about having her characters bother her when she's trying to shower, finding literature in rubbish heaps, and needing a literary residency - please let her know if you've one to spare! Please note there are mentions of rape and general violence in this episode. Where to find Chịkọdịlị online <a href="https://twitter.com/chemelumadu" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Twitter</a> || <a href= "http://instagram.com/chikodiliemelumadu" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Instagram</a> Where to find Charlie online <a href="https://wormhole.carnelianvalley.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Website</a> || <a href= "https://twitter.com/carnelianvalley" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Twitter</a> || <a href= "https://instagram.com/charlieplacebooks" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Instagram</a> Discussions 01:43 The starting point of Dazzling 04:54 The original narratives and the hows and whys of Chịkọdịlị's choices in terms of points of view and tenses 07:41 Why Chịkọdịlị doesn't have a favourite character and how she knows her characters 09:23 Is Chịkọdịlị writing a sequel? Shhh... 14:13 Chịkọdịlị tells us about how she worked on world building, which includes information about her childhood in Nigeria and how it compared to her initial years in the UK. She also discusses colonial and Christian impacts on Igbo culture 22:03 Why it was important to include the lack of family - Chịkọdịlị talks about polygamy in her culture and the differences between that and a one-mother family 29:08 The spirits and Igbo mythology in the book 34:32 Chịkọdịlị's use of the leopard society, which is a factual society, and who they were in reality 39:47 The 'lost girls' in the book - the whys and hows and the connections to reality. And the 'use' of menstruation 44:15 The inclusion of politics and its importance - looking at the civil wars and coups 47:04 Bringing the Harmattan into what Chịkọdịlị's been saying 49:25 What Chịkọdịlị is writing now Photo credit: The Visual Team.

<description>&lt;p&gt;Charlie and Chịkọdịlị Emelụmadụ (Dazzling) discuss Igbo mythology, the differences between polygamy and monogamy in Igbo culture, and the social impacts of colonialism and military coups in Nigeria. Chịkọdịlị also talks about having her characters bother her when she's trying to shower, finding literature in rubbish heaps, and needing a literary residency - please let her know if you've one to spare!&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Please note there are mentions of rape and general violence in this episode.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Where to find Chịkọdịlị online&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/chemelumadu" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "http://instagram.com/chikodiliemelumadu" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Where to find Charlie online&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://wormhole.carnelianvalley.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/carnelianvalley" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://instagram.com/charlieplacebooks" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Discussions&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;01:43&lt;/strong&gt; The starting point of Dazzling&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;04:54&lt;/strong&gt; The original narratives and the hows and whys of Chịkọdịlị's choices in terms of points of view and tenses&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;07:41&lt;/strong&gt; Why Chịkọdịlị doesn't have a favourite character and how she knows her characters&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;09:23&lt;/strong&gt; Is Chịkọdịlị writing a sequel? Shhh...&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;14:13&lt;/strong&gt; Chịkọdịlị tells us about how she worked on world building, which includes information about her childhood in Nigeria and how it compared to her initial years in the UK. She also discusses colonial and Christian impacts on Igbo culture&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;22:03&lt;/strong&gt; Why it was important to include the lack of family - Chịkọdịlị talks about polygamy in her culture and the differences between that and a one-mother family&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;29:08&lt;/strong&gt; The spirits and Igbo mythology in the book&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;34:32&lt;/strong&gt; Chịkọdịlị's use of the leopard society, which is a factual society, and who they were in reality&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;39:47&lt;/strong&gt; The 'lost girls' in the book - the whys and hows and the connections to reality. And the 'use' of menstruation&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;44:15&lt;/strong&gt; The inclusion of politics and its importance - looking at the civil wars and coups&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;47:04&lt;/strong&gt; Bringing the Harmattan into what Chịkọdịlị's been saying&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;49:25&lt;/strong&gt; What Chịkọdịlị is writing now&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Photo credit: The Visual Team.&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Charlie and Chịkọdịlị Emelụmadụ (Dazzling) discuss Igbo mythology, the differences between polygamy and monogamy in Igbo culture, and the social impacts of colonialism and military coups in Nigeria. Chịkọdịlị also talks about...

99: Chịkọdịlị Emelụmadụ (Dazzling)

Charlie and Sarah Marsh (A Sign Of Her Own) discuss the lesser-known aspect of Alexander Bell's work - teaching deaf children to speak - in terms of both the real history and the fictionalised character she created in order to explore the events. This includes snippets about the manufactured rivalry between the two inventors of the telephone; Bell's wife, Mabel Hubbard (who was deaf); the Deaf community in London in the late 1800s; and the way Sarah employs language - written, signed, spoken - to excellent effect. A transcript of this episode is available on <a href= "http://wormhole.carnelianvalley.com/podcast/episode-98-sarah-marsh-a-sign-of-her-own" target="_blank" rel="noopener">the podcast website</a>. Reuben Conrad's 1979 book is called Deaf School Child <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisha_Gray_and_Alexander_Bell_telephone_controversy" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Wikipedia's page on Bell and Elisha Grey's rivalry</a> Where to find Sarah online <a href="https://twitter.com/SarahCMarsh" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Twitter</a> || <a href= "http://instagram.com/sarahmarshwrites" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Instagram</a> Where to find Charlie online <a href="https://wormhole.carnelianvalley.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Website</a> || <a href= "https://twitter.com/carnelianvalley" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Twitter</a> || <a href= "https://instagram.com/charlieplacebooks" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Instagram</a> Discussions 01:55 The inspiration for A Sign Of Her Own 03:27 Alexander Bell's work with deaf children, 'Visible Speech', and the reality of it all 07:08 The Deaf community in London at the time 08:13 The locations - America and London 09:21 The characters, particularly Sarah's fictional heroine, Ellen, and where bird names as surnames come into it 11:49 Talking about Mabel Hubbard, Alexander Bell's wife, who was deaf 13:24 The rivalry between Alexander Bell and Elisha Grey 15:30 The way Sarah uses different languages in her book 18:57 The romance in the book, between Ellen and Frank 20:48 Where Sarah sees Ellen going in her life beyond the book 22:34 Brief notes on what Sarah's writing now

<description>&lt;p&gt;Charlie and Sarah Marsh (A Sign Of Her Own) discuss the lesser-known aspect of Alexander Bell's work - teaching deaf children to speak - in terms of both the real history and the fictionalised character she created in order to explore the events. This includes snippets about the manufactured rivalry between the two inventors of the telephone; Bell's wife, Mabel Hubbard (who was deaf); the Deaf community in London in the late 1800s; and the way Sarah employs language - written, signed, spoken - to excellent effect.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;A transcript of this episode is available on &lt;a href= "http://wormhole.carnelianvalley.com/podcast/episode-98-sarah-marsh-a-sign-of-her-own" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;the podcast website&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Reuben Conrad's 1979 book is called Deaf School Child&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisha_Gray_and_Alexander_Bell_telephone_controversy" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Wikipedia's page on Bell and Elisha Grey's rivalry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Where to find Sarah online&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/SarahCMarsh" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "http://instagram.com/sarahmarshwrites" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Where to find Charlie online&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://wormhole.carnelianvalley.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/carnelianvalley" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://instagram.com/charlieplacebooks" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Discussions&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;01:55&lt;/strong&gt; The inspiration for A Sign Of Her Own&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;03:27&lt;/strong&gt; Alexander Bell's work with deaf children, 'Visible Speech', and the reality of it all&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;07:08&lt;/strong&gt; The Deaf community in London at the time&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;08:13&lt;/strong&gt; The locations - America and London&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;09:21&lt;/strong&gt; The characters, particularly Sarah's fictional heroine, Ellen, and where bird names as surnames come into it&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;11:49&lt;/strong&gt; Talking about Mabel Hubbard, Alexander Bell's wife, who was deaf&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;13:24&lt;/strong&gt; The rivalry between Alexander Bell and Elisha Grey&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;15:30&lt;/strong&gt; The way Sarah uses different languages in her book&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;18:57&lt;/strong&gt; The romance in the book, between Ellen and Frank&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;20:48&lt;/strong&gt; Where Sarah sees Ellen going in her life beyond the book&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;22:34&lt;/strong&gt; Brief notes on what Sarah's writing now&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Charlie and Sarah Marsh (A Sign Of Her Own) discuss the lesser-known aspect of Alexander Bell's work - teaching deaf children to speak - in terms of both the real history and the fictionalised character she created in order to explore the events. This...

98: Sarah Marsh (A Sign Of Her Own)

Charlie and Natasha Solomons (Fair Rosaline) discuss Natasha's interpretation of Romeo and Juliet, told from the perspective of Rosaline, wherein Romeo is a groomer and Juliet must be saved from him. We discuss as well Natasha's stylistic choices for her prose and the changes she made to the original ending. Please note that there is a lot of discussion of sexually predatory behaviour and some explicit language in this episode. Mark Scott's rephrasing of Charles Dibdin's argument can be found in his 1987 publication, Shakespearean Criticism, page 419 <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58014650-i-mona-lisa" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Natasha's I, Mona Lisa</a> <a href= "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7294527-mr-rosenblum-s-list-or-friendly-guidance-for-the-aspiring-englishman" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Natasha's Mr Rosenblum's List</a> <a href= "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13206633-the-marlowe-papers" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Ros Barber, The Marlowe Papers</a> <a href= "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30288200-to-wee-or-not-to-wee" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Pamela Butchart's To Wee Or Not To Wee</a> <a href= "https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/To-Wee-or-Not-to-Wee-Audiobook/B077T8PZBQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Susan Calman's audiobook version of Pamela Butchart's To Wee Or Not To Wee</a> Where to find Natasha online <a href="https://twitter.com/natashasolomons" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Twitter</a> || <a href= "http://instagram.com/natashasolomonsauthor" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Instagram</a> Where to find Charlie online <a href="https://wormhole.carnelianvalley.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Website</a> || <a href= "https://twitter.com/carnelianvalley" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Twitter</a> || <a href= "https://instagram.com/charlieplacebooks" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Instagram</a> Discussions 01:39 The inspiration for Fair Rosaline - Natasha's interpretation of Romeo and Juliet as being darker than it's portrayed 06:18 How we never see Rosaline in the original, and how Natasha changes this 07:01 Shakespeare's own thoughts on his characters, and Natasha's interpretations here 10:29 How Natasha borrowed from other Shakespearean Rosalines and Rosalinds 16:32 The importance of Juliet and her relative relevance in the book, and how Natasha considered different types of readers when she wrote 19:39 We start talking about the changes Natasha makes to the ending 20:44 Romeo's copying Tybalt - the balcony and roses not being Romeo's original idea in Fair Rosaline 21:57 The theme of roses and thorns 24:54 How Natasha wrote her prose - similar but not the same as Shakespeare's 28:12 How Natasha changes (or, as she says, 'made it more explicit') Friar Lawrence 32:45 The men being in on it 34:17 The importance of the convent and the theme of women's freedom 40:25 Tybalt's death and why Natasha made the choices she did 42:29 How Natasha wrote with her young daughter beside her on Zoom in lockdown 44:34 What Natasha's writing now: Cleopatra, with the Shakespearean influence again 47:18 There will be a play of Fair Rosaline!

<description>&lt;p&gt;Charlie and Natasha Solomons (Fair Rosaline) discuss Natasha's interpretation of Romeo and Juliet, told from the perspective of Rosaline, wherein Romeo is a groomer and Juliet must be saved from him. We discuss as well Natasha's stylistic choices for her prose and the changes she made to the original ending.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Please note that there is a lot of discussion of sexually predatory behaviour and some explicit language in this episode.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Mark Scott's rephrasing of Charles Dibdin's argument can be found in his 1987 publication, Shakespearean Criticism, page 419&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58014650-i-mona-lisa" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Natasha's I, Mona Lisa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7294527-mr-rosenblum-s-list-or-friendly-guidance-for-the-aspiring-englishman" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Natasha's Mr Rosenblum's List&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13206633-the-marlowe-papers" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Ros Barber, The Marlowe Papers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30288200-to-wee-or-not-to-wee" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Pamela Butchart's To Wee Or Not To Wee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/To-Wee-or-Not-to-Wee-Audiobook/B077T8PZBQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Susan Calman's audiobook version of Pamela Butchart's To Wee Or Not To Wee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Where to find Natasha online&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/natashasolomons" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "http://instagram.com/natashasolomonsauthor" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Where to find Charlie online&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://wormhole.carnelianvalley.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Website&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/carnelianvalley" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt; || &lt;a href= "https://instagram.com/charlieplacebooks" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Discussions&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;01:39&lt;/strong&gt; The inspiration for Fair Rosaline - Natasha's interpretation of Romeo and Juliet as being darker than it's portrayed&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;06:18&lt;/strong&gt; How we never see Rosaline in the original, and how Natasha changes this&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;07:01&lt;/strong&gt; Shakespeare's own thoughts on his characters, and Natasha's interpretations here&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;10:29&lt;/strong&gt; How Natasha borrowed from other Shakespearean Rosalines and Rosalinds&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;16:32&lt;/strong&gt; The importance of Juliet and her relative relevance in the book, and how Natasha considered different types of readers when she wrote&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;19:39&lt;/strong&gt; We start talking about the changes Natasha makes to the ending&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;20:44&lt;/strong&gt; Romeo's copying Tybalt - the balcony and roses not being Romeo's original idea in Fair Rosaline&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;21:57&lt;/strong&gt; The theme of roses and thorns&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;24:54&lt;/strong&gt; How Natasha wrote her prose - similar but not the same as Shakespeare's&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;28:12&lt;/strong&gt; How Natasha changes (or, as she says, 'made it more explicit') Friar Lawrence&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;32:45&lt;/strong&gt; The men being in on it&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;34:17&lt;/strong&gt; The importance of the convent and the theme of women's freedom&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;40:25&lt;/strong&gt; Tybalt's death and why Natasha made the choices she did&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;42:29&lt;/strong&gt; How Natasha wrote with her young daughter beside her on Zoom in lockdown&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;44:34&lt;/strong&gt; What Natasha's writing now: Cleopatra, with the Shakespearean influence again&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;47:18&lt;/strong&gt; There will be a play of Fair Rosaline!&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Charlie and Natasha Solomons (Fair Rosaline) discuss Natasha's interpretation of Romeo and Juliet, told from the perspective of Rosaline, wherein Romeo is a groomer and Juliet must be saved from him. We discuss as well Natasha's stylistic choices for...

97: Natasha Solomons (Fair Rosaline)

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