Menu Talk

Te’Sean Glass is chef de cuisine of True Laurel, a cocktail bar in San Francisco’s Mission District where he takes a farm-to-table approach to dishes such as chicken katsu topped with Caesar salad and patty melts. Originally from St. Augustine, Florida, Glass grew up in a family of enthusiastic family cooks, but he had a dream early on of running his own restaurant. His first job in a professional kitchen was as a teenager working for Meals on Wheels, where he learned about preparing high-volume food on a budget made for off-premises dining—lessons that would be useful at pretty much any restaurant. From there he worked at The Ice Plant, a bar in St. Augustine, and went on to culinary school at Johnson & Wales University in Miami. His ambition eventually landed him in San Francisco, where he started working in fine-dining restaurants including Saison and Ernest. In the podcast, Glass discusses his journey from St. Augustine to San Francisco and offers advice for young chefs about following their dreams. 

Our guest on this week's Menu Talk is Isabel Coss, executive chef at Pascual, a contemporary Mexican restaurant in Washington, D.C.A native of Mexico City, Chef Coss actually studied ballet—not cooking—as a way to get into arts school and become a filmmaker. But once there, she realized she was more passionate about cooking than film, and enrolled in culinary school.She quickly landed an externship at Pujol, the Michelin-starred Mexico City restaurant on the list of the World’s 50 Best Restaurants. She worked at the pastry station, honing her bread baking skills. In 2011, she brought those skills to New York City where she was hired as a pastry chef at Empellón, Chef Alex Stupak’s renowned Mexican Restaurant, followed by a position at Enrique Olvera’s Cosme, another award-winning Mexican restaurant.Isabel Coss in front of Pascual. | Photo by Alex Lau.In 2020, Chef Coss moved to Washington, D.C., and overhauled the pastry program at Lutèce, a notable French bistro in Georgetown. She now heads the kitchen at Pascual, developing menus for both the sweet and savory sides. The centerpiece of Pascual is a hearth oven where the chef crafts the restaurant’s specialties. Coss’s culinary skills have landed her on lists like Food & Wine’s Best New Chefs in America and as a semifinalist for a James Beard Best Chef Mid-Atlantic award. Listen as she describes her love affair with masa, what she’s cooking and baking now and what’s next in her culinary journey.

Nelson German was born and raised in the Dominican-American community of Washington Heights in New York City, but he mostly cooked classic fine-dining food until recently.After working at New York City venues such as Joseph’s Citarella, the Gramercy Park Hotel, Absinthe Wine Bar and Jerry’s Café, he moved to San Francisco in 2010, and debuted his first restaurant there, AlaMar, in 2014, serving a wide variety of seafood.After he expanded his presence on the culinary scene by appearing on Season 18 of "Top Chef" in 2021, he began to explore his own personal culinary roots and reopened the restaurant as a Dominican venue. That followed his brief launch in 2020 of Sobre Mesa, which reopened after lockdown and explores Latin cuisines as well as influences from West Africa, which German explored after researching his family’s own Cameroonian heritage.Then in April of this year, he opened Meski in partnership with Ethiopian-American entrepreneur Guma Fassil and NBA legend Draymond Green. Meski’s own background has brought even more variety to the cuisine at his restaurant, which is German’s first in San Francisco.German discussed his culinary journey and shared how his cuisine has evolved over the years.

With an early focus on cold coffee, energy drinks and a flavor-forward menu, Dutch Bros has established itself as a leader in the increasingly competitive beverage segment. CMO Tana Davila joins the Menu Talk podcast to share how the brand combines menu innovation and hospitality to create a culture that connects with guests. Customization continues to be a key trend valued by consumers, and Dutch Bros has long been at the forefront of that trend. The menu offers a large selection of coffees, lemonades, matcha, smoothies, shakes and the chain’s signature Rebel energy drinks, all of which can be customized. Davila describes how limited-time seasonal items are also a big draw, including summer’s colorful and refreshing mocktail-inspired drinks and the current line of holiday beverages. And an expanded food program is in test, designed to drive beverage sales and frequency throughout the day. As CMO, Davila also prioritizes the hospitality side. She shares how Dutch Bros’ unique service culture is a differentiator and why community engagement is built into its mission. The Dutch Rewards Program also fosters a strong customer connection, she points out.Listen as Davila talks about Dutch Bros’ push into the CPG space, how menu innovation is shaping up for the future and the plans for growth as the chain moves East from its West Coast roots. 

Menu Talk: The sommelier also oversees neighboring restaurant Cafe Yaya