Naomi has an in-depth conversation with Elijah Kellman who has a background in health psychology and is currently working in social prescribing. There's so much to enjoy and learn in this interview including the different experiences of health provision (especially mental health provision), patient and health practitioner interaction, and the acknowledgement of invisible power. Elijah talks about death, grief and the possibility of reframing difficult experiences. He shares his wisdom about the heightened emotional state providing illumination, and the value of interruption. Elijah on instagram. Show host - Naomi Woddis Music and production : Gavin O'Brien - Citóg