We call grocery workers “essential” — right up until it’s time to pay them. In this episode, Nicole sits down with journalist, activist, and author Ann Larson to unpack the hidden realities of low-wage labor, economic inequality, and the corporate systems keeping millions of workers struggling to survive.

Drawing from her experience working as a grocery store cashier during the pandemic, Ann shares what most consumers never see: workers skipping meals, elderly employees unable to retire, women wearing diapers behind registers because breaks are denied, and employees lacking basic healthcare while generating billions for major corporations.

Ann Larson is a journalist and activist whose work on education debt and low-wage labor has appeared in The New Republic, The Nation, Fast Company, and The Chronicle of Higher Education. She’s the co-author of Can’t Pay Won’t Pay: The Case for Economic Disobedience and Debt Abolition and author of Clean Up on Aisle Five, a powerful look inside the realities of supermarket labor in America.

In this episode, Nicole and Ann discuss:


  
Why there’s no such thing as “unskilled labor”



  
The hidden emotional and technical skills required in grocery work



  
How corporate consolidation impacts wages, communities, and poverty rates



  
The connection between consumer spending and worker treatment



  
Why unionization and antitrust laws matter more than most people realize



  
How economic inequality affects all of us — not just low-wage workers



  
What shoppers can do to support ethical labor practices



  
Why voting with your dollars matters




Because if people working full-time jobs still can’t afford food, healthcare, or retirement, the system isn’t broken — it’s working exactly as designed. The question is whether we’re willing to keep funding it.



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Connect with Ann:

Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Cleanup-on-Aisle-Five/Ann-Larson/9781668094501   

Website: https://annlarsonwrites.com/ 


Related Podcast Episodes:


  Fair Shake: Women And The Fight To Build A Just Economy with June Carbone | 246

  Holding It Together: Women As America's Safety Net with Jessica Calarco | 215

  Wages For Housework with Emily Callici | 325



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Essential Workers, Poverty Wages, and The Real Cost of Cheap Groceries with Ann Larson | 417

JUN 8, 202634 MIN
This Is Woman's Work with Nicole Kalil

Essential Workers, Poverty Wages, and The Real Cost of Cheap Groceries with Ann Larson | 417

JUN 8, 202634 MIN

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We call grocery workers “essential” — right up until it’s time to pay them. In this episode, Nicole sits down with journalist, activist, and author Ann Larson to unpack the hidden realities of low-wage labor, economic inequality, and the corporate systems keeping millions of workers struggling to survive. Drawing from her experience working as a grocery store cashier during the pandemic, Ann shares what most consumers never see: workers skipping meals, elderly employees unable to retire, women wearing diapers behind registers because breaks are denied, and employees lacking basic healthcare while generating billions for major corporations. Ann Larson is a journalist and activist whose work on education debt and low-wage labor has appeared in The New Republic, The Nation, Fast Company, and The Chronicle of Higher Education. She’s the co-author of Can’t Pay Won’t Pay: The Case for Economic Disobedience and Debt Abolition and author of Clean Up on Aisle Five, a powerful look inside the realities of supermarket labor in America. In this episode, Nicole and Ann discuss: Why there’s no such thing as “unskilled labor” The hidden emotional and technical skills required in grocery work How corporate consolidation impacts wages, communities, and poverty rates The connection between consumer spending and worker treatment Why unionization and antitrust laws matter more than most people realize How economic inequality affects all of us — not just low-wage workers What shoppers can do to support ethical labor practices Why voting with your dollars matters Because if people working full-time jobs still can’t afford food, healthcare, or retirement, the system isn’t broken — it’s working exactly as designed. The question is whether we’re willing to keep funding it. Thank you to our sponsors! Become a Fora Advisor today at Foratravel.com/WOMAN - and make sure to tell them we sent you! Elevate your summer wardrobe: Go to Quince.com/tiww for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns! Visit Upwork.com right now and post your job for free! Families are better when they’re working together… go to myskylight.com/WOMANSWORK for $30 off your Skylight Calendar. Start your risk-free Greenlight trial today at Greenlight.com/TIWW. Don't wait to teach your kids real-world money skills! Connect with Ann: Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Cleanup-on-Aisle-Five/Ann-Larson/9781668094501    Website: https://annlarsonwrites.com/  Related Podcast Episodes: Fair Shake: Women And The Fight To Build A Just Economy with June Carbone | 246 Holding It Together: Women As America's Safety Net with Jessica Calarco | 215 Wages For Housework with Emily Callici | 325 Share the Love: If you found this episode insightful, please share it with a friend, tag us on social media, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! 🔗 Subscribe & Review:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices