What if meditation isn’t about sitting still, clearing your mind, or becoming some perfectly calm, enlightened human? What if it’s simply about presence? In this episode of This Is Woman’s Work, Nicole Kalil sits down with entrepreneur, TEDx speaker, and founder of the globally consumed meditation podcast A Zen Mind, Jo Rose, to talk about meditation for real life, nervous system regulation, and how cultivating presence can transform the way we work, lead, and live. In this conversation, we explore: The biggest myths about meditation and why so many people think they “can’t meditate” Why meditation isn’t about silencing your mind  How presence and mindfulness can happen during conversations, movement, or everyday tasks The connection between nervous system regulation and feeling calm, open, and grounded Why trying to control outcomes often blocks creativity and intuition The difference between forcing results vs. allowing flow states How to discover routines that support your mental health and well-being (and why copying someone else’s routine rarely works) The power of devotion over discipline when building meditation and mindfulness practices Because meditation isn’t about perfection. It’s about noticing when your mind wanders… and bringing it back. Over and over again. Thank you to our sponsors! Shopify has everything all in one place, making your life easier and your business operations smoother. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at shopify.com/tiww  Listen to A Zen Mind Podcast & Connect With Jo Rose: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/69Jm0pfRlpnaBDaioynNaX?si=r9BQATHYRei2Hm0tBQ2O8w&nd=1&dlsi=dcf04fdb2d8b4ab6 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-zen-mind-guided-meditations/id1599159160 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@azenmind IG: https://www.instagram.com/a.zen.mind Website: https://azenmindglobal.com/  Related Podcast Episodes: Stop Saying “I’m Fine”: Nervous System Regulation for High-Achieving Women with Michelle Grosser | 372 How To Listen When Your Parts Speak (IFS Therapy + Ancestral Wisdom) with Tamala Floyd | 376 How Our Dysregulated Nervous Systems Are Impacting Us with Victoria Albina | 244 Share the Love: If you found this episode insightful, please share it with a friend, tag us on social media, and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform! 🔗 Subscribe & Review:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices