Every Way To Outsmart Hackers, Big Tech And The Government | Max Hillebrand & Ben Perrin
Mentor Sessions EP 105 | Max Hillebrand & Ben Perrin on GrapheneOS, White Noise, Local AI, KYC-Free Bitcoin and Privacy Guerrilla Warfare If you click next, next, next on mainstream tech, your privacy is fucked. But Max Hillebrand (White Noise, Marmot protocol, author of The Praxeology of Privacy) and Ben Perrin (BTC Sessions, Sovereign Sessions) argue the tools to route around surveillance have never been better. With an old laptop, an AI agent, Nostr and Zapstore, you can now build and ship a freedom tech app without knowing how to code. From there, they walk through a practical privacy stack: Pixel phones running GrapheneOS (8, 9 or 10, not the 11), Linux laptops, password managers, paying privately with gift cards and prepaid cards, Wasabi Wallet and peer-to-peer Bitcoin, Zapstore, Tor VPN, Amber and White Noise for encrypted messaging, local AI and trusted execution environments, self-hosting on an old laptop, quantum risk to encryption, and why privacy matters for honest price discovery. Timestamps: 0:00 Cold Open 0:41 Privacy Guerrilla Warfare: Can We Route Around the Grid? 2:37 Build an Anonymous App Without Coding 6:19 Why Your Data Is So Valuable 7:38 Google Maps and Your Location Data 9:40 GrapheneOS, Organic Maps and Linux 10:53 Is the Privacy UX Gap Closing? 15:23 Moving the Cultural Needle on Privacy 20:12 Starting a Private Device Setup 24:46 OS-Level ID Verification 25:41 Best Pixels for GrapheneOS: 8, 9, 10, Not the 11 27:05 Linux Laptops and Operating Systems 28:54 Face Scan vs PIN 30:27 Passwords and Password Managers 32:19 Paying Privately With Gift Cards and Prepaid Cards 35:07 Spending Bitcoin Through Friends 37:13 Wasabi Wallet and On-Chain Privacy 38:21 Getting Bitcoin Without KYC 41:38 Zapstore, Tor VPN, Amber and White Noise 48:00 How the Marmot Protocol Works 55:52 How Disappearing Messages Work 57:57 Private AI and Running Local Models 1:01:29 Talking to Your AI Agents Through White Noise 1:07:37 Private Cloud AI With Maple and PPQ 1:08:43 Trusted Execution Environments: Cypherpunk Magic 1:14:35 Self-Host Your Data on an Old Laptop 1:17:14 Is Quantum a Threat to Encryption and Bitcoin? 1:25:09 The Economic Case for Privacy 1:29:00 Ben's Blond Streak Disguise 1:29:55 Where to Find Max, Ben and White Noise Tools mentioned: GrapheneOS, Organic Maps, Debian, Qubes OS, Pop!_OS, Omarchy, Framework, Apple Lockdown Mode, KeePass, Silent.Link, Bitrefill, Coincards, Garmin Pay, Wasabi Wallet, Lightning, Hodl Hodl, Bisq, RoboSats, Zapstore, Tor VPN, Obscura VPN, Amber, White Noise, Marmot protocol, MLS, Nostr, Nostr VPN, FIPS, Routstr, Cashu, Fedimint, Bionic, Maple, PPQ.ai Max Hillebrand (Nostr only): https://towardsliberty.com White Noise: https://whitenoise.chat Sovereign Sessions (tutorials): https://youtube.com/@SovereignSessions ⚡Previous Episode: Jim Rickards & Simon Dixon: https://youtu.be/djc-F6TPfos 🔔 Subscribe for weekly Bitcoin Podcasts 🐦 Follow on X: https://x.com/BTCSessions 🐦 Follow on X: https://x.com/theBTCmentor ⚡Casa MultiSig & Inheritance: https://casa.io/sessions 10% Off First Year Promo Code SESSIONS ⚡ Sponsored by Trezor - Get Your Safe 7 Today: https://affil.trezor.io/aff_c?offer_id=352&aff_id=1088 ⚡ POWERED by Abundant Mines: Fully managed Bitcoin mining. Learn more at https://qrco.de/bgYKPB ⚡ Sponsored by BITCOIN WELL: Best Place to BUY & SELL BITCOIN https://qrco.de/bfiDC6 💡BOOK Private Sessions with Nathan, Ben and the BTC Mentor Team: Master self-custody, hardware, multisig, Lightning, privacy, and more. 👉 Visit btcmentor.io #BitcoinPrivacy #GrapheneOS #Nostr #MaxHillebrand #BenPerrin #WhiteNoise #WasabiWallet #LocalAI #SelfHosting #FreedomTech #Cypherpunk #Bitcoin #BTCSessions #Privacy #Zapstore