We sat down from afar last spring with two stalwarts of California surf culture - and explored the strange power of Malibu, the burdens of a wave-riding career, and the healing power of the sea.<hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>