Patrick reveals the inside details of the infamous 2009 National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) conference call he participated in and recorded. The call, involving NEA officials and the White House Office of Public Engagement, encouraged artists to create propaganda-style works supporting the administration's agenda on health care, education, the environment, and the United We Serve initiative His exposé, first published on Andrew Breitbart's Big Hollywood site (and later referenced in The Wall Street Journal), sparked national outrage, led to congressional scrutiny from Republican senators, the resignation of NEA communications director Yosi Sergant, and new White House guidelines to prevent such misuse of federal resources. We also explore Patrick's personal friendship and professional collaboration with the late Andrew Breitbart. Breitbart not only platformed Patrick's groundbreaking series of op-eds on the NEA scandal but went so far as to nominate him for a Pulitzer Prize. Patrick shares stories of working in the trenches with Breitbart, how Breitbart's vision that "politics is downstream from culture" shaped his work, and why that philosophy remains vital today. From the fallout of government overreach in the arts to lessons on media, culture, and speaking truth to power, this conversation uncovers untold aspects of a pivotal moment in American cultural and political history. If you care about free expression, the role of government in the arts, or the enduring impact of Andrew Breitbart's legacy, this is a must-watch.