"If we’re going to succeed in the energy transition, we have to bring every customer along with us," says Marzia Zafar, Head of Strategy and Policy at Kaluza. In this podcast episode, she shares her opinion about how we can move the industry forward, together. From the Southern California Gas Company to the World Energy Council and from there to Kaluza, Marzia Zafar seems to have a holistic view regarding what makes the energy sector tick. And with a strong attitude towards the environment, equality issues and the role of the consumer, she is a prominent voice in the current debates. Listen to the conversation between our host, Areti Ntaradimou, and Marzia Zafar about the human condition in the energy transition. Don't forget to read more about Marzia Zafar in her 'Women in Energy' interview. Guest: Marzia Zafar | Head of Strategy and Policy | Kaluza Host: Areti Ntaradimou | Enlit Europe content director for data and editor Smart Energy International Music by NSAT