<p>The US Constitution seems to be clear, but that hasn’t stopped President Trump and his allies from dangling the possibility that Trump won’t vacate the office in 2029. Is this just media trolling, or is there actually an argument to be made here? We asked a constitutional expert for the answer.</p><p><em>This podcast was brought to you thanks to the support of readers of The Times and The Sunday Times. Subscribe today:</em><a href="http://thetimes.co.uk/thestory" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em> http://thetimes.com/thestory</em></a></p><br><p><strong>Guests:</strong></p><ul><li>Will Pavia, New York Correspondent, The Times.</li><li>Suzanna Sherry, Herman O. Loewenstein Chair in Law Emerita, Vanderbilt University</li></ul><p><strong>Host: </strong>Luke Jones.</p><p><strong>Producer: </strong>Taryn Siegel.</p><p><strong>Further reading:</strong> <a href="https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/jack-kerouac-letters-antiquarian-book-fair-new-york-vnp38f2qz" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">These Jack Kerouac letters are selling for $250,000. I read them</a></p><p><strong>Clips: </strong>NBC News, CNN, NewsNation, Newsmax, The White House. </p><p><strong>Photo:</strong> Getty Images.</p><p><strong>Get in touch:</strong> <a href="mailto:[email protected]" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">[email protected]</a> </p><p><em>This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe </em><a href="https://www.thetimes.com/subscribe/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>here</em></a><em>.</em></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>