Keith sits down with Ethan Lee McCarthy to discuss his career booking bands and the logistics of tour booking, growing up in Denver, discovering independent music, Ethan's early band Clinging To The Trees of a Forest Fire and some of their history. We also discuss the formation of Primitive Man, the history of the band, their creative process, the making of their most recent LP "Observance", Ethan's other band Vermin Womb, his solo noise project Many Blessings and more. Intro - 0:00 - 3:57 Primitive Man Interview - 3:58 - 1:03:19